The absolute dregs of society i swear to god.
Psychopathic individualist ladder climbing freaks who have not one crumb of responsibility or integrity where throwing people under the bus to maintain their job of being a fuckhead is the norm.
What do i do with these people? I literally cannot be around them
Water cooler talk be like “ooh the shareprice looks good today”
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
i work in a professional environment, like civil service i guess. most of my coworkers have tolerable politics, union participation is high. they don’t make me mad. just an occasional eye roll. and it’s a minority that are hardcore careerists. i just stay out of those peoples’ way, generally, because they disturb me psychically. i also used to work in a white collar place that did not have a union. i was part of an effort to help organize one, and it was BRUTAL. i made a few really close friends and found everyone else infuriatingly myopic.
but like, i wasn’t always white collar. i was screwed in my 20s and didn’t do higher education until i was 30. which was a whole decision that was mostly born of spite at some uniquely shitty employers. literally “fuck you, i’m going to college”. lol, i still remember how mad i was. that and later grad school opened all these doors for a professional career that i now have. so it worked out. shout out to motivational spite.
anyway, my point here is that i’ve been this outlier at all my jobs since then. nobody else i work with now had this 10+ year period where they were washing dishes, mopping puke, checking IDs until 2am, waking up at 6am to go put shit in boxes or drive a lawn mower or pull weeds. no living in legit sketchy neighborhoods, no wrapping janky spark plug wires in electrical tape to get to the jobsite, no getting pulled over by the law just because you drive a shitbox, no scrambling for the opportunity to pick up an extra 50-100 bucks to get through the week, or seeking out rumors of illegal/substandard apartments with ultra cheap rent. maybe they did something like that for a summer in high school, or had some crap internship at graduation but it was more like a “taste” of the rough life rather than a potentially lasting situation.
the demographics of who even get to attend college shifted radically. when i was “supposed” to go, scholarships and grants could cover a lot if you were a go-getter nerd. when i went back, no matter how many scholarships you got, it was all about signing up for bigass loans, and way less people were making the gamble. so my classmates were mostly people whose parents were footing the bill because they could foot the bill, and that trended to them being mostly from more comfortable backgrounds and not having experience with shitty jobs. it wasn’t everybody, but it was definitely most.
so now my professional network is dominated by people in this mostly insular tier. many of them have these material aspirations i don’t even understand. like these crazy vacations or big boats or big houses. i feel like i don’t really “belong” among the people i work with, socially. like i’ll go to somebody’s house and they have all this nice shit, nice cars, in these baller ass places with classy updates. all shit i can’t even imagine trying to be about. i don’t really advertise this, but i feel like i am subtly probing people to find out who is operating on a similar plane of material existence to me and mostly i’m not finding my people.
also, i have friends from before college and we stay in touch though i live a thousand miles away, but i get the distinct impression my colleagues could not relate to their material situations at all. living with a parent in their 40s, odd-jobbing week to week, getting a good deal on scrap, spotty healthcare access, etc.
My immediate team under my manager are basically people who have the same material experiences I did of min wage work, living in crap conditions and the best hope was not losing all our savings to a car breaking down.
Without these people here I would actually go completely insane because outside of this bubble I work with literal aliens. People who own yachts and go abroad 72 times a year and their future aspirations are to be a CEO. The problem is i’ve been ripped away from my team of people i actually like and forced to work with some dude who spent half his life in university and cant even copy paste something I wrote correctly and keeps generating brain melting levels of ai bullshit. This guy im surprised he can even put his clothes on in the morning and outside of my bubble absolutely everyone is like this and its always the same story. People who had privileged lives and never had to do anything difficult ever. The concept of sleeping for dinner is lost on them
Every day
Me quietly doing my job “no we cant have that here share your work with a bunch of wannabe senior managers who’ve never done a normal job in their lives”
Give them work to do, they dont do it, they blame me. I do the work instead of 4 people, they say im hampering their development and “stealing” work. I give the work back they say im not helping.
I literally want to explode your internal organs
Im white collar
I’m saying this being white collar as well. As long as you dont spend every working day trying to find new exciting ways to piss me off then we’re good.
Bonus points for bunking off work and going to the pub for the entire afternoon with me
The shareprice does look good today am I rite ?
Im going to explode your organs
I’m going to steal your organs like a Falun Gong kinda deal
take my organs as long as I get to keep my pretty face
My white collar job is all former service and trade workers who share theory and hate the boss lol.
Still sucks, but it could definitely be worse
Half my coworkers are CHUDs so yeah I don’t really see much potential to start a union.
Maybe I should just support the global peasantry in their unlimited genocide of the first world KKKulaKKKs of the United $nakes of Amerikkka.
full of elon musk stans and backstabbing sycophants in the tech jobs i end up getting.
i’d say the middle class is doomed if i wasn’t terribly biased by working in tech, which might be the highest concentration of shitty people per square inch in my continent.
these people actually still believe in grindset culture and that they deserve to work themselves to the bone. i’d say fuck it, they do. shit feels like a crab bucket.
might be the highest concentration of shitty people per square inch in my continent.
Defense contractors and tech workers locked in a battle to the death over who can suck worse.
the fields are coalescing into a single industry
Both groups are also trying to backstab each other and ladder climb so they get to keep their jobs in the resulting industry as they merge and shed redundant workers like civilian airliner safety or anyone writing code that doesn’t kill people or sell ads.
well considering that they have an infinite money glitch with the US fed printing money for them, with over a trillion budget in just the war department, i think there’s plenty of cheese for all the rats. they might still squabble over it because they’re greedy
There’s definitely plenty of cheese to go around, but it seems like it’s increasingly going to graft.
Defense/aerospace and tech are both laying off tons of employees and have an attrition rate close to double the average for the US workforce. There seems to be a big problem with losses of institutional knowledge which is feeding into a vicious cycle that necessitates further layoffs.
Don’t worry, Grok can replace them! 🫠
Wow, just ignoring our brave police and intelligence services. Okay. I see how it is.
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Despite their theoretical class position as employees, I would argue that many white-collar workers tend to be ideologically aligned with the petit bourgeois in practice. As proletarianization continues, the material conditions will decline past a terminal point and they will either become politicized members of the working class, or fascists. FWIW, in the US I’d say it’s like 3/4 of the time they go fascist. Treatlerism is real.
I sorta see Labor aristocrats as uncle toms
If someone is raised on the expectation of relative socioeconomic affluence, and if they’re poised to end up making more in capital gains over the course of their life than the amount of rent and loan interest they pay, then they are part of the exploiting class, and their interests are aligned with preserving the system of domination.
I don’t know. Some white collar workers are absolutely evil and feed off of the very little meaningless power they get at a mid tier tech company.
My biggest concern is how to bridge the gap between blue collar workers and white collar workers knowing full well the issue lies on the white collar workers side.
And incredibly dumb. So fucking evil but the dumbest people you will ever meet I swear to god
Never forget that the Groverhaus guy was a military contractor
Vilerat was the dumbest mod on the dumbest forum
On the one hand, salute to a group of folks who have found a way to take money away from capitalists without doing any work at all. If only it wasn’t at the expense of other workers like yourself.
I feel you on this though. The conditions that provide their positions to exist push their mushy brains into such a short sighted selfish moneymaking situation. My only hope is that once the revolution happens their brains will shift into a system that rewards equality over money hoarding and blame.
I’m being very generous.
The sad part is I am like the master of doing no work while management think im doing lots and while it was my small insular team it was great cos thats just what id do. But the difference is if you arent going to do the work you need to take responsibility of the work you’re not doing. They dont do this.
It was around 3 years ago the work that came in was largely discussions and manual work so i automated it but didnt say anything and spent half a year grinding 3 mmo’s and gran turismo at the same time. At the end the work was done by the deadline and everyone was happy. They dont do this.
Now these new people are here i actually have to do about 5 jobs at the same time and now frequently have to work late and the output is slower than when it was just me and my close knit smaller team.
Present the options to them (ex - unionization, non-state sanctioned news). If they don’t take it, just be the hippy at work without necessarily bothering anyone.
Their material interests don’t really align with progressivism so short of a personal epiphany there isn’t that much you can do.
And if being the hippy at work puts a nasty target on your back, turn it down I guess?
That’s pretty much how I deal with it. Anyone of the tech bros who talks to me about politics gets the “let’s overthrow imperialism and establish a DotP” pitch. It short circuits some of them.
Yeah when in doubt make people squirm with reality. You don’t have to argue with them. Just present some people evidence and then bail out.
Anytime I’m dealing with a certain type of white asshole it’s normally what I do. Though this probably only works if you are also white. Lure them in with complaints about something they agree with then hit them hard to make them have to use the little grey cells for once. You can turn up or down the heat depending upon circumstances.
Hey so when do your options vest let’s talk about the best strategic times to buy and sell. Did you see the CTO’s eyebrow twitch? Maybe we should be bullish.
The people I work with are so incredibly out of touch with what real work is. A computer is not going to puke, piss, shit, or cum on you, and you get to use it while seated in a climate controlled environment. Yet they think their jobs are hard
I work white collar and slightly agree. But the hard part is the people. They are making it unnecessarily hard and don’t even realize it doesn’t have to be.
Someone will message you at 4:15pm for something that’s “urgent” so you check and it’s something that has been broken for 3 years and the people that worked on it quit already or were laid off. But you can’t tell them that because higher ups don’t like hearing no so your manager expects you to bend over backwards to resolve a problem urgently that could really wait another 2 years. And some workers get excited to bend over for higher ups on meaningless shit and the rest of us who push back get looked at as uncooperative.
It’s like playing survivor where you can only get shit done by manipulating people but you don’t get a million dollars at the end.
This is the true difficulty of white collar work. I’ve done blue and pink collar work, and I’m glad I’m not anymore, but the politics and surveillance from bosses in white collar fucking sucks, and the coworkers are all too chickenshit to even think about a union.
Also, anybody who thinks all white collar work is easy needs to do outbound phonebanking work for a shady company. I had a stint making “warm calls” that were basically cold calls for a shady online university (Capella University) and I would absolutely take the graveyard shift at the nursing home over that again.
At least at the nursing home, the residents were mostly glad I was there when I came around. Terribly understaffed, had to handwash shitrags with a sprayer that ran too hard and gave you splashback, had to deal with assholes who called you racial slurs while you were wiping their asses.
Still better than waking up some guy at 4am in hawaii to try and pitch him a degree he briefly thought about pursuing 3 years ago. That’s scum level work and everyone running a cold call phone bank should be strung high from a beam and left to rot
I often express it as the broom-and-mop rule.
If you’re not sweeping and mopping as part of your job, someone else needs to be hired to do the sweeping and mopping that you don’t do yourself.
Almost every job I’ve had has involved the expectation of cleaning the workspace.
The nice thing about my job is the whenever management shows up on site, I can start yelling at them about proper ppe and how they’re interfering with ongoing work. I spent a year in an office and I wouldn’t wish that on my most annoying coworker.
I worked in an eye doctors’ office. At the time I was still a baby leftist, but I did my best not to throw other people under the bus. “There’s a discrepancy here.” “So there is.” “Why didn’t you do it right?” “I was’t there.” “Well who was?” “I wasn’t there, so I don’t know.” Then pass on the advice for fixing it without the lecture to the person who was there later. They continued to make mistakes on the paperwork, but I wasn’t going to rat them out. I ended up leaving for a good number of reasons, including but not limited to being the only one who ever got lectured at. Then I went on to do some janitorial work for a while.
