My bears are so silly. Never change.

I kid, I don’t mind stuggle sessions actually. Sometimes they help us work out out dumb shit.

For anyone curious what the cat thing was, it wasn’t a big deal, we just had a funny semi-serious struggle session about whether people who hate cats are sus.

I still have yet to be proven people in blue suits aren’t asshole’s though! Every single one has either been something like a slimey insurance guy or a real estate agent!

Jk, my GP wears a blue suit and he’s pretty cool

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      Like come on who do you think you’re impressing

      Most people apparently. I’ve noticed a pretty significant difference in how I get treated by people when I’m wearing a suit vs casual wear.

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        I honestly and truly hear the voice of Ricky from trailer park boys saying “fuckin’ suit dummy with your word papers” in my mind every time i see someone in person with a suit on.

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      Im really not trying to start an argument with you. BUT there are a lot of situations, like work, events, funerals, weddings, etc., that might require suits, regardless of whether the person “wants” to wear a suit. So I don’t really think judging someone based on something like that makes sense, even if you don’t like suits.

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        I didn’t think it needed qualifying but no I’m not walking by a wedding party or funeral going “look at these assholes”

        I know suit culture is different in a lot of places but wearing a suit to work is exclusive to executive level people here so I’m fine with judging them

        I can’t think of another event where someone who doesn’t want to wear a suit has to wear one? I guess if there are wait staff at some rich person party with a dress code? I think the server tuxedo thing is different though

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          There are absolutely workplaces where wearing a suit isn’t officially enforced, but is still expected, and Im not talking about executive-level positions. I mean regular ass office jobs where youre still just an ordinary worker, even if you make a decent salary. Though I suppose modern American office culture might be more relaxed about that.

          I know you´re trying to make the point that you don’t like rich people. I just want to point out that plenty of everyday people wear suits for completely normal reasons. And not to flex their wealth.

          EDIT: For example, I wear suits for official events at my company. This only happens a couple of times a year, and I make less than 50k a year.

          • I suppose modern American office culture might be more relaxed about that.

            Can’t speak for America from personal experience, but office attire in Europe has shifted a lot over the last 10-15 years outside of the finance sector. Obviously depends on the workplace, there’s always some small business tyrant who runs his firm as if it’s 1956, but if you show up with a tie in fields like media, it can actually come off as overdressed. So that things are becoming less obviously formal doesn’t mean they become less restrictive. When the dresscode is “smart casual”, you’re still expected to meet some standard of respectability, it is just more nebulous what that standard even is nowadays.

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            For example, I wear suits for official events at my company. This only happens a couple of times a year, and I make less than 50k a year

            I’m sorry to hear that. What kind of event?

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            I know east coast americans are more likely to be told to wear suits at work but I don’t live over there.

            It’s not that I’m trying to say i hate rich people. I’m saying the wearing of a suit, in my general experience, is meant only to convey status. Aside from going to a wedding or funeral, i suppose, though to be honest I’ve been to many of both and i think just for one wedding the majority of people had on suits/tuxedos. It’s just not really a thing for people to wear them in my world

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              I mean, people work fucking hard. You want to be taken seriously by the people around you both at work and in life. That means dressing appropriately for the occasion. I know it shouldnt matter, but it does in some fields.

              I dont wear suits just for fun either. (I wish I had the money to wear suits just for fun, and I’d be happy to be judged by you for it.) But I don’t.

              It’s fine, though. We probably just see this issue differently and I frankly don’t think it matters in the grand scheme of things. So I just hope you have a good day or night, wherever you are.

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          I’m gonna start going to funerals in just a pair of stubbies and thongs so no one will think I’m a snobby asshole

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      Sometimes it be like that but sometimes suits are dapper.

      It depends on the type of suit and how its worn imo

      Also you can have like fun flamboyant floral suits and shit

      I like waistcoats but I’m too shy to wear 'em

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          Yeah that is the kind I don’t like. But suits come in many flavors!

          Some of them even have dapper ruffles!

          If anything business guys annoy me for making suits so boring come on you nerds! Choose some colour! Also screw those same guys for making them a staus thing and therefore expensive

          Like come on there is no reason for dress shoes to be that expensive

  • I still have yet to be proven people in blue suits aren’t asshole’s though! Every single one has either been something like a slimey insurance guy or a real estate agent!

    Fascists over here also prefer blue suits. If a nazi is the suit wearing kind and can’t afford the batman villain nonsense that Jojo Peepeeterson is wearing nowadays, they really dig the blue. And it’s always two sizes too small so it performatively shows off how not fat they are and that their socks are boring and certified not gay and that they don’t shave their legs because when they sit down the hem of the legs is running up to the middle of their shins. ISTG none of these losers know how to find a suit that fits and that’s in spite of formal menswear purposefully being the most basic, easily memorizable shit ever.

    Back before i transitioned, i actually kind of liked suits because they are so comically masc coded that it becomes butch again. Kind of like Ralsei and the butler outfit that is contextual! ralsei-devious

    But i never even thought about getting a blue suit. I always stuck to black or to colors that made me look like a budget Harry DuBois, which was fitting because i was really magging it up back then dubois-finger-guns

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    The major opinion on the left is that if you present masc and somewhat formal or preppy then you are evil. This in unironically a common sentiment.

    Every single time I go to a new org it’s the same. I walk in and everyone tenses up. Obligatory butch or tall non-binary comes over to talk to me in a vaguely polite but warning tone. Then my more obviously left-looking friends comes over to introduce me and everyone immediately relaxes. “Why don’t you want to connect with your community more?” I wonder why.

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    If we’re continuing this general line of discussion, I’ve seen on this very site “I don’t trust anyone my dog doesn’t like” and if dogs are good judges of character then I am apparently secretly a Terminator because I swear I can never walk past one without them barking their head off at me.

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    I used to be conditioned to respect people in suits until I experienced that suit guys are the most likely commit sa in public like jerking off on public transport