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you crackers are so fuckin weird about food i stg
Reject gastro nationalism
Next time this thread comes round on its regular schedule, I will forego all my comments and just say
Meat pasties with fresh herbs, cloves, and onions are a much better representation of British food than beans on toast. And that shit slaps. Not that the island shouldn’t fall into the sea, but this “Britain has bad food” bit is extremely fucking tired.
Also, Japan has some absolutely nasty ass traditional fermented fish dishes that just are not popular anymore.
M8 u go’ a loicense for that pea n 'am soup?
u best not be talkin shit about comfy soup
Whats working class british food like? No way people eat fish and chips as a staple do they…?
If you want specifically the British things that some working class people will traditionally eat regularly - Yorkshire puddings, toad in the hole, bubble and squeak, bangers and mash, pies, pasties, sunday roasts, meat+veg+chips, shepherd’s pie, full english (esp bacon), are all on the list of dinners for example. Roasts, full breakfasts, wellingtons etc might be considered high cuisine, but the rest is just decent everyday staples.
Other than that… fairly standard western diet, really.
Potatoes, sausages and cabbage, with a variety of soups or stews was pretty typical for working class British. Curry is especially popular, though I guess that is an ‘Indian’ dish but it has been around Britain for over a century now. Otherwise yeah, fish and chips are a pub staple.
Honestly the nasty stuff was usually the weird like, jellied eels, stuff that was preserved over the winter before refrigeration was a thing.
Beans on toasts tastes fine. People act like it’s fermented pig anuses
It barely tastes of anything is the point
Is it? The comic shows various prepared main dishes and then compares them to a cheap canned breakfast. I’m not sure if there is a point.
Wdym? It’s salty-sweet beans on toast, that’s a… flavour
That is what brits imagine counts as flavor, yes, that’s why people make fun of it
The sauce the beans are in is basically just ketchup. You’re using American spelling and pretending that you hate ketchup flavour. I don’t believe you.
Ketchup and beans sounds legitimately awful though, like there are better struggle meals out there lol.
It’s not ketchup, it’s just made by Heinz. Pretty sure they made other stuff before they made ketchup.
It’s not as sweet as ketchup, it’s a bit runnier with a stronger tomato (not sugar sweet) flavour. It’s balanced 50/50 savoury sweet:
Tomato Sauce (51%) [Tomatoes (29%), Water, Sugar, Salt, Maize Thickener (1422), Food Acids (260, 330), Flavours], Navy Beans (49%). May Contain: Soy
When on toast, you can load up the toast for the ratio you like. It’s honestly fine.
I’m not a fan of it on it’s own, but if you add actual spices and herbs to it and some cheese then put it in the toaster oven/air fryer, then it’s tolerable.
Id probably try it before having such strong opinions on it.
I literally don’t think I’ve tasted ketchup since the day I went vegan which was 10 years ago
And "actually it tastes like ketchup
" is a hilarious response to being told it doesn’t taste good, considering how ketchup is notoriously a thing little kids eat because they don’t know what good food isHexbear when italians dont like ketchup:
Hexbear when British people like something that can kind of be compared to tasting like ketchup:
Jesus Christ we have a thread about this weird gastro-nationalism that’s prevalent among US leftists every few months. Its tiring.
I don’t buy your premise that anyone on hexbear has ever criticized anyone anywhere for not liking ketchup before this exact thread
Nah, you’re not allowed to say “That is what brits imagine counts as flavor” and then deny your love of ketchup. You are an American and you think ketchup is a vegetable and have it with everything. Also, everything you eat is burgers and hotdogs and processed cheese. I can’t believe you think that counts as food. Isn’t this hilarious. Aren’t we all having such fun together about this.
All Americans know is eat hyperprocessed hot chip and rub the same storebought spice-mix on everything.
I still remember when one of these threads had a good few comments upvoted with people shitting on the concept of saltning your food (because thats what the british do). None of these people can cook
When I’m so definitely not owned that I have to go on a weird rant accusing someone of liking bad food in order to cover for the bad food that I like
Ketchup is fine. Food snobbery is bourgeois cultural signaling.
You’re right, enjoying things is bourgeois decadence, we should all be eating unseasoned beans and rice for every meal, there is no such thing as flavor and if there was it would be a bad thing
Seriously though I have eaten the heinz beans in tomato sauce, they’re what carnists think tofu tastes like, it’s literally the blandest thing I’ve ever experienced and I will judge you if you pretend that it isn’t worse than real food
Neither does sushi
I can’t comment on it because I don’t eat sushi, but seaweed is delicious and that’s a visually significant part of sushi so I have a hard time believing it isn’t also delicious
The nori in sushi is usually unseasoned, unlike nori designed for consumption on its own.
The flavour comes from the rice (seasoned with vinegar) and/or whatever goes on/in the rice, which can be very plain or flavourful depending.
Which works because like, versions of fish and starch with vinegar is a extremely common staple worldwide
Fish and chips
Now that’s an actually disappointing dish.
Never said that bland food can’t be delicious
this is why i either cover them in sriracha majoo and smoked parika powder or add some chili flakes and baharat while cooking
Japan: $20 sushi box
England: half a 70 cent tin and a slice of bread
Yes this is totally because of the countries and not just “poor people eat worse food haha”
Last time I bought baked beans they were $2/can
Here in the UK they’re way way less than that, even if you buy fancy. Cheapie tin is £0.28 from my local supermarket for example.
So actually less than 40 cents.
Man seems every week there’s a post ragging on baked beans they are GOOD they are YUMMY they are CHEAP they are BEANS
Its beans and tomato sauce. What’s to dislike?
I’ve never known so many people who’ve not eaten beans on toast to have such strident opinions about it. It’s just a simple, comforting foodstuff on crunchy bread, it’s pretty easy to grasp the appeal. Nobody’s saying it’s the pinnacle of Pommy cuisine.
Tomato sauce. Tastes like a can full of rotting grass clippings on a rainy summer day smells.
If you don’t like tomato sauce then yeah anything tomato sauce based is going to suck. But tomato sauce is pretty inoffensive to most people.
I have something terrible to admit. I actually enjoy beans on toast. I even enjoy mushy peas. By god, I’ve even had a smack barm pea wet and found it delicious.
I’m not even British.
smack barm pea wet
It’s a cheap treat for children, sometimes adults get it too
yea i read theoryThe scalloped potatoes image is a potato gratin, made with circular sliced (scalloped) potatos. It is tangentially related to a potato scallop, the deep fried dish (known as a smack, in the above image, or probably generically known as a potato fritter). A potato scallop (‘a scallop’), is a battered, fried scalloped potato, so named after its shape.
Ive had those in Sweden. They’re good.
in Wigan it’s as good as gravy
Smack barm pea wet is a common order at chippies in Wigan (a town in Greater Manchester, England). The syntax of this order may need some explaining. A “smack” (in other regions called a “scallop” or a “potato cake”) is a battered and deep-fried potato slice. “Barm cakes” are soft, enriched rolls which were traditionally leavened with “barm,” or the froth from the top of a fermenting vat of beer—though bakeries today use active dry yeast. Thus “smack barm” is a noun-noun compound, where “smack” gives the specific type of “barm,” or “sandwich on a barm cake,” that’s being described.
“Pea wet,” or “pey wet,” is another noun-noun compound. It describes a condiment that, as far as anybody can tell, is completely specific to Wigan: the liquid, or “wet,” off the top of a batch of mushy peas (though a few solid peas may make their way into the ladle as well).
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A deep fried potato served with dressing in a bread roll makes you react like this?
“Dressing” is one word for it.
Most things can sound disgusting if youre preempted to feel that way. Relish is a nasty word. Mayo is eggs with oil. A good part of Korean cooking is fermented whathaveyous
the froth from the top of a fermenting vat of beer
the liquid, or “wet,” off the top of a batch of mushy peas
barm is literally just yeast, if you make a whole bunch of it on purpose and dry it out you get the stuff in the yeast packets
Yes? I read it too.
the froth from the top of a fermenting vat of beer
If this was Korean or japanese you’d be saying it sounded interesting or delicious.
the liquid, or “wet,” off the top of a batch of mushy peas
As I said, it sounds nasty because you’re preempted to think of it nastylike. It’s just cooking, you can make it sound disgusting if you try. You could reward that description to use words like “slow-cooked” and I dunno. Its just the wording. Slap a Japanese guy on there talking about his traditional local white-green-rice and youd be calling it a delicacy.
I don’t even particularly like British cooking, but this childish yank tendency of calling food gross in order to perform something is just tiring.
Deep fried potato slice in a bread roll with some wet stuff so its not too dry? Wow so nasty ewwwww. What’s next, putting chocolate in their sauces? Those things don’t mix!
For the inventors of the language they sure do take their liberties with it
Smack barm pea wet is a common order at chippies in Wigan, what’s not to understand?
Smack barm pea wet is up there with Chunk slap barn waft, lovely innit
I’m reasonably confident that’s something you just made up on the spot here for banter, but smack barm pea wet being real plants a seed of doubt here.
It is indeed made up, I just tried to find something that fit the vibe.
‘Smack barm pea wet’ was actually the localized lyrics of “my neck, my back, my pussy and my crack”. Never really took off sadly
Beans on toast for breakfast slaps.
Pea fritters ftw
so now beans are bad
Beans: :)
Beans, England: :(
Qin baking some beans
Baked beans are the lowest bean, beneath mushy peas.
They’re fine, you can’t have bad beans, you just can’t.
This struggle session reminds me of a teacher I had in elementary school who would always shittalk pretzels because they’re just salted bread.
Sushi is fucking shit though, literally raw fish on a lump of cold rice for 10€.
learning: beans on toast massively dilate your pupils because there’s 120mg of MDMA in every tin
Norwegian cuisine
Norwegian cuisine without lutefisk
isn’t the dish in the picture the sheep’s heads that they eat? and an overcooked cabbage
It just looks like cabbage, potatoes and random pieces of meat.
Either way, smalahove (the sheep’s head thing) and lutefisk is really only eaten for christmas, and both are regional. It’s not like the entire country has this stuff regularly lol
Japan is the Britain of Asia. Made some Japanese “extra spicy” curry last week and the spice barely registered. Had to throw gochujang paste and red chili flakes into it before I got some heat.
I mean, neither cuisine really claimed to be full of ‘hot’ spice. Not all food needs to be.
You can eat some dangerously hot Indian takeaway if you have to burn from local food.
But when something claims to be “extra spicy” I’m gonna be upset if it’s not spicy at all.
I mean that specific example is admittedly very silly
Did the gochujang ruin the flavour of the Japanese curry though? I feel like it would, I might give it a go one time just to see.
Not really, it improved the flavor imo but that’s mostly because I prefer spicy stuff and am willing to sacrifice “authenticity” for it
Are people talking about the authenticity of japanese curry? That’s whack.
Not here I think, besides asking if gochujang paste ruins the flavor of the curry. I’m just sure there’s some Japanese cuisine nerds who’d consider it to be blasphemous to have curry that’s actually spicy
After searching out several European recipes, I genuinely can’t fathom the depths of misery it must be to be a Euro
I’ve had several of these recipes that were so dreadfully bland you would think their third successful crusade was against flavor
Skill issue truly. I cannot imagine fucking up borsch. Or literally any of the many other lovely meals that are to be found in Europe.
This is just orientalism with extra steps.Then you must’ve got some shit recipes, because our food slaps. I would argue conversely American food can get in the trash.
American food can get in the trash.
Mexican food is just tortillas folded different ways served with the same few ingredients.
You know, moscovites are native to mexico, but I know of no traditional Mexican dish involving them. Except maybe mole, but that’s supposed to be turkeys. And I live in the area were they supposedly were domesticated.
What is a moscovite? Internet search only gets me muscovite
A type of waterfowl that looks a lot like a duck but isn’t one. I think it should be muscovite, sorry for the spelling.
I once ate one, because I mistook it for a duck, I don’t know if it was poorly kept or if all of em taste like that, the meat was very red, redder than beef, tasted ok, with a fishy aftertaste, but it was very lean, and hard to chew.
Sounds interesting! Thanks for the explainer
When you only eat tex-mex slop maybe
Tacos are tortillas + the stuff. Gringas are two tacos + cheese
Huaraches are big tostadas
Tostadas are crunchy tortillas
Empanadas are tortillas with some yeast and they’re rapped around the stuff
Enchiladas and frijoladas are tortillas with beans or some chili sauce poured on top and then the stuff
Tlayudas are big tacos + cheese
Tamales are empanadas but the dough is without yeast and made with rice instead.I could go on with this reductive simplistic generalisation of several regions of cuisine with the only purpose of ragebaiting performative virtuesignalling one-of-the-good-anglos in order to further underline the point that this weird gastro-nationalism is completely ridiculous, but I reckon none of y'all would ever get it and would only ever make you hallucinate stuff i didnt say that you could then argue against.
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But seriously we have this thread every few months and it pisses me off every time. I wish you people would interrogate your weird approach to food.performative virtuesignalling one-of-the-good-anglos
Borsch is literally what I had in mind when I said Euro food is bland but I didn’t want to continue talking about it because I didn’t want to offend; frankly I had pierogi as well and it was the most basic dumpling I’d ever had. Honestly Mexican, Chinese, Indian and (Turkish? Iranian?) food are all very flavorful and tasty in comparison, it’s not even a challenge. Japanese food can lack spices (I’m thinking sushi stuff, not noodles or chicken and curry) and yet it still tastes better.
It’s not performative, it’s not virtue signaling, it’s from a fat person who if given a range of restaurants to choose from, I wouldn’t go Euro again (except maybe ironically Anglo fish and chips or savory pies; the British actually made use of the spices they committed horrors for)
EDIT: Actually you know what? Our own food slaps; you think borsch holds a candle to a bowl of chili? You guys got anything to match up against hotdogs and burgers? These are the foods you can carry with you anywhere and can enjoy anywhere; they are the people’s food and they are delicious.
Imagine being proud you suck so much at cooking that you cant make borscht taste good. A bowl of chili is a dish you can find in every single cuisine, what are you even talking about?
Im sure some day an old asian man will walk up to you and let you know youre one of the good ones.
Imagine being proud you suck so much at cooking that you cant make borscht taste good.
I’m not the one who cooked it, I bought it from a restaurant that was doing a ‘Slavic’ week; and dude an actual Russian couldn’t make borscht taste good, that’s the problem.
I didn’t want to continue down this discussion because it’s turned bitter, but I can acknowledge there ARE European foods that flavorful, but here we’re looking at British and Italian foods (maybe even Spanish); I love fish and chips, I love meat pies, I love pizza and spaghetti, but borscht though is literally what I had in mind for food that needs flavor. Pierogi also has basically no flavor to it.
Also despite liking several British foods, I’d never be curious to try British ‘jellied eels’.
Tortilla is when corn dough is used, lol ok
If all british food is beans and toast, then yeah
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