On paper, the recent EU-China auto deal looks like a compromise Europe needed. In reality, it is a big mistake: short-term relief for European automakers versus long-term market dominance for China.

The EU protects the hybride car market in Europe in essence protecting the ‘old’ combustible engine technology at the same not incentivizing EU car makers to go all in on Electrical Vehicles.

The future however is 100% electric, and this is where the EU car makers will lose out as they remain stuck in their old ways.

This deal shows the pressure the EU is under to get short-term relief, while at the same time not thinking about the long-term consequences.

In essence they EU has no China strategy

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    short term gain, long term pain

    What is even with the west and being almost proud of its myopia? Even as a kid this never made sense. Embracing pollution because instant gratification? That’s such a 12 year old mentality.

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      My sibling in heaven, you’re living through the beginnings of largest fossil fuel shortage in decades, why would European energy policy benefit in the slightest from its vehicles relying on a fossil fuels Europe itself does not have?

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      Is God going to put more oil in the ground for you? Utterly inane, your derangement syndrome has removed all your analytical ability. The fear amd stress you live under must be incredible to feed such superstition.

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          The fun thing about calling someone a bot is that the accusation can be made without evidence and is impossible to disprove. It’s a tailor-made excuse to immediately dismiss anyone’s argument without an attempt to address it.

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          What if there’s an oil black out? Your argument makes no sense. Oil and fossils fuels are VASTLY more precarious than renewable energy and take more steps to provide the energy. I just want to add to the chorus of bots to show the advanced might of the Proletarian Bot Army.

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          It’s called scientific socialism for a reason. We come to the same conclusions about you because we have mountains of evidence to draw from regarding what is going on in that empty little head of yours that you gleefully offer up as a vessel for regurgitating CIA propaganda and racist tropes about the asiatic red menace.

          You’re operating on like 70 year old McCarthyite tropes and propaganda its that fuckin obvious.

          Just go back to reddit. It’s where you dipshit fascists belong.

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      surely you meant the state of openai and claude, which is located in usa as far as i know?

      leaving aside that electrical grid shouldn’t be exposed to the interwebs.

      but it shouldn’t be due to mineral pressure, copper especially, even if sodium batteries pan out.

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        Plenty of data centres, coal factories, steel production, semiconductors etc etc in China which produce unbelievable amounts of CO2 and waste. But yes, data centres are for sure part of the picture and will probably suck up all the electricity and triple electricity prices

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          Meanwhile in reality China is leading the largest adoption of green energy in history and is the only nation making progress on fusion while Europeans rush to double down on increasingly scarce fossil fuels from USA at extortion prices i-cant

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              Very sincere question. Do human rights include poverty eradication (saving an unknowable number of lives), aggressive attempts to control the spread of covid (saving an unknowable number of lives), and removing the political power of Tibet’s reactionary clergy (saving an unknowable number of lives)? Or is this all negated because China has to have a surveillance state to prevent all of this from being undone? In your very informed opinion, what was the plausible alternative course of action that the workers of China should have taken?

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          (i meant the news of them hacking australian government websites for fun. something which anonymous red state is yet to do)

          but i more meant to elucidate your fears of electricity exclusive future, you can make perfectly fine grid without blackouts fears, it doesn’t need to be centralized, plugged into internet or any such thing, if one were to design it system wide to be resilient to such nonsense.

          it is a rather bad idea due to other concerns, namely mining extraction, frequently by european companies as well as chinese, frequently in global south, frequently not very concerned with child labor or mining refuse.

          but the first step answer rather is obvious: forbid advertising for cars including movies, have fun convincing germans of this. after all, hybrid vehicles eat same amount of copper as full evs, cause the motors are the same

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            I would be more worried about the huge amount of data being collected by brands including BYD.

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              aren’t you worried by huge amounts of data being collected by windows pc and google? you know, actual thoughts and dreams of people rather than their commute