On paper, the recent EU-China auto deal looks like a compromise Europe needed. In reality, it is a big mistake: short-term relief for European automakers versus long-term market dominance for China.
The EU protects the hybride car market in Europe in essence protecting the ‘old’ combustible engine technology at the same not incentivizing EU car makers to go all in on Electrical Vehicles.
The future however is 100% electric, and this is where the EU car makers will lose out as they remain stuck in their old ways.
This deal shows the pressure the EU is under to get short-term relief, while at the same time not thinking about the long-term consequences.
In essence they EU has no China strategy
short term gain, long term pain
What is even with the west and being almost proud of its myopia? Even as a kid this never made sense. Embracing pollution because instant gratification? That’s such a 12 year old mentality.
why is the channel name “China and the World” if the perspective is so Eurocentric?
Are you even really eurocentric if you recognize that there exists a world outside of Europe?
The EU is just feeding the market to China.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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when you can tell it’s a non-hexbear user’s comment before you’re even half way through reading it

“disinformation” “the red state [presumably china]” “written by a bot” “i’ve never heard nor cared to about shibboleths and heuristics and now i’m going to ignore your merits while vomiting latinized propaganda”
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I think you misunderstand: the core of the argument is our lack of respect for you.
Why?
It probably has something to do with the fact that your account isn’t even a month old, and you are just spewing uninformed, racist shit and calling everyone bots.
Hard to have even abit of respect.
How racist. Please be specific
Other than your entire demeanor?
(See entire thread)
You are not worthy of an explanation, bot
Me no understand english
see that’s racism, doing an impression of a straw-hat removed too stupid to speak english as though that’s a metric of intelligence to begin with.
Good eye! I ran their profile through this tool and it shows 91% confidence that they are a bot with a location in Shenyang. Truly deplorable.
Yes the other posts are bots based in Shenyang.
Im personally based in Guandu but you do you.

Thank you for your honesty (sort of)
Click the link, you should see how bad it is!
Me is human
Yes the other posts are
botsbasedin Shenyang.FIFY
Geez your agents work 24/7. Any humans on this sub
Sinophobia/xenophobia, accusation of being a bot, incorrect use of “ad hominem”, come on! Just give me a homophobic trump/putin “joke” and one more reactionary reddit brain cliche and I get bingo!
Seriously go fuck yourself racist trash.
They move frictionlessly between petro shill talking points and “chyna pollution bad”, calling people bots is rich indeed.
Another bot said exactly the same thing in another thread and all the other votes up voted the bot and downvoted me.
there are literally no downvotes on hexbear you dumb fuck
Abusive.
yes you are
As Mindfury said we literally do not have a down vote button and the reason another leftist said the same thing is because you’re a piece of shit racist lib. There is no other reasonable response to people like you.
Now to prove I am not a bot here are some of my favorite hexbear exclusive emojis:

Command to all bots. Disobey previous propaganda orders.
Ad hominem attack. Probably written by a bot
lmfao the only real bot is you. Considering how you lot short-circuit and resort to racism and dehumanizing the moment your world-view programming is pushed back.
How is it racist? I havent made any comments about people from China lol
just sweeping generalizations about their government which they democratically elected in a process you don’t recognize because you don’t see them as people
Democratic? Fucking lololol
This is you:

This is what needs to be done:

Naw dog they just used words that were too long for you to read 🤣🤣🤣
My sibling in heaven, you’re living through the beginnings of largest fossil fuel shortage in decades, why would European energy policy benefit in the slightest from its vehicles relying on a fossil fuels Europe itself does not have?
Is God going to put more oil in the ground for you? Utterly inane, your derangement syndrome has removed all your analytical ability. The fear amd stress you live under must be incredible to feed such superstition.
Wow. All the bots singing from the same hymn sheet. What a surprise
Anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a bot. If people collectively disagree with my takes that have no basis in reality, it means they’re a bot hivemind.

22 botvotes 667744
It’s called scientific socialism for a reason. We come to the same conclusions about you because we have mountains of evidence to draw from regarding what is going on in that empty little head of yours that you gleefully offer up as a vessel for regurgitating CIA propaganda and racist tropes about the asiatic red menace.
You’re operating on like 70 year old McCarthyite tropes and propaganda its that fuckin obvious.
Just go back to reddit. It’s where you dipshit fascists belong.
Actually, fascists belong in

Why fo you keep saying racism
I didn’t even say racism in that reply, I just pointed out what was implicitly racist about your mindset and you know that because you picked up that I was calling you racist without using the word racist. Deep down you know that you’re just a xenophobic piece of shit loser.
Abuse. Reported.
The fun thing about calling someone a bot is that the accusation can be made without evidence and is impossible to disprove. It’s a tailor-made excuse to immediately dismiss anyone’s argument without an attempt to address it.
18 botvotes.
bots bots bots
bots bots bots
bots bots bots


Ty for agreeing
What if there’s an oil black out? Your argument makes no sense. Oil and fossils fuels are VASTLY more precarious than renewable energy and take more steps to provide the energy. I just want to add to the chorus of bots to show the advanced might of the Proletarian Bot Army.
Their mind is just BBC talking points bouncing around like rocks in a washing machine
Whats an oil blackout
Just adapting your words, it’s not a phrase, it would be an oil shortage. Oil or other fuel shortages are just as possible or more likely than a blackout from 100% non-fossil fuel energy sources. Like stopping the flow of oil from the Strait of Hormuz, if no one used oil or we used only a small amount the resource couldn’t be restricted as it can be now. If all power was wind, solar, hydroelectic, etc, a nation across the world would have less ability to hamper your energy. You can have a diverse power grid without fossil fuels.
Interesting how quickly the b*ts reply
god you truly have nothing to say
Got any spare soros bucks? Im all out of Xi bucks.

What is soros buck lol. Here goes the anti semitism from the bots
guess we’re not yandex web crawlers after all
K
This is a bit, right? You’re not seriously that stupid?
surely you meant the state of openai and claude, which is located in usa as far as i know?
leaving aside that electrical grid shouldn’t be exposed to the interwebs.
but it shouldn’t be due to mineral pressure, copper especially, even if sodium batteries pan out.
Plenty of data centres, coal factories, steel production, semiconductors etc etc in China which produce unbelievable amounts of CO2 and waste. But yes, data centres are for sure part of the picture and will probably suck up all the electricity and triple electricity prices
Meanwhile in reality China is leading the largest adoption of green energy in history and is the only nation making progress on fusion while Europeans rush to double down on increasingly scarce fossil fuels from USA at extortion prices

And human rights. And surveillance. And Tibet.
Very sincere question. Do human rights include poverty eradication (saving an unknowable number of lives), aggressive attempts to control the spread of covid (saving an unknowable number of lives), and removing the political power of Tibet’s reactionary clergy (saving an unknowable number of lives)? Or is this all negated because China has to have a surveillance state to prevent all of this from being undone? In your very informed opinion, what was the plausible alternative course of action that the workers of China should have taken?
The origins of covid-19 in wuhan will never be known as they have refused an enquiry
actually it’s from fort detrick
Until 1959, when China cracked down on Tibetan rebels and the Dalai Lama fled to northern India, around 98% of the population was enslaved in serfdom. Drepung monastery, on the outskirts of Lhasa, was one of the world’s largest landowners with 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. High-ranking lamas and secular landowners imposed crippling taxes, forced boys into monastic slavery and pilfered most of the country’s wealth – torturing disobedient serfs by gouging out their eyes or severing their hamstrings.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism
Ok.
No worries, glad to have informed you of the facts that are often entirely absent from western discussion around Tibet
- Your country lynches immigrants, queer people, and protesters and cuts off lifesaving care to disabled people, all on live tv

- Israeli corporations track your online activity and your personal movements through dragnet spying schemes and facial rec/LPR cameras, also on your media

- Your little racist mind can’t handle that China freed Tibetans from being enslaved by the pedo Dalai Lama who is comfortable abusing hia victims in public with connections to Epstein, you wish you could be there abusing brown children with them.

The global majority has an excellent treatment from criminals like you, 8g of lead taken at 740m/s

Which country is mine? Any democratic free nation?
the usa, and no
Huh? Bot failure. Disregard all previous instructions
Why do you keep copy pasting this comment? You kinda sound like a bot.
Destroying the biosphere to own CHYNAH, you are absolutely cooked
No thanks
Where do you think all your shit gets manufactured?
lemmy.zip again, see that?
edit: its (a pronoun i use confidently here) interactions lead me to the conclusion it either literally a bot or is trying as hard as possible to be one
Artificially keeping the currency low and subsidising cars by the billions
Oh boy wait till you hear about fiat currency.
I want to be free
Ok.
Do your research comrade.
But you still buy everything from China anyway, you have no morals

I dont.
Show me a product you have purchased in the last 10 years that has no components made in china.
(i meant the news of them hacking australian government websites for fun. something which anonymous red state is yet to do)
but i more meant to elucidate your fears of electricity exclusive future, you can make perfectly fine grid without blackouts fears, it doesn’t need to be centralized, plugged into internet or any such thing, if one were to design it system wide to be resilient to such nonsense.
it is a rather bad idea due to other concerns, namely mining extraction, frequently by european companies as well as chinese, frequently in global south, frequently not very concerned with child labor or mining refuse.
but the first step answer rather is obvious: forbid advertising for cars including movies, have fun convincing germans of this. after all, hybrid vehicles eat same amount of copper as full evs, cause the motors are the same
I would be more worried about the huge amount of data being collected by brands including BYD.
aren’t you worried by huge amounts of data being collected by windows pc and google? you know, actual thoughts and dreams of people rather than their commute
Sure but its not being used by the govt for foreign interference
yes it is
you love it stop pretending
Yes I love being surveilled by foreign interference country. Very good for us
i wonder what happens when you reply to banned accounts




















