• content_educator_94@thelemmy.club
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    2 months ago

    Zionism is equivalent to Nazism.

    Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it’s prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.

    Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.

    Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn’t begin until the 1920s.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
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    Y’all so brave saying that. Care saying “Fuck Palestine” in these places?

    jk, Free Palestine!

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      Fuck palestine. A miserably failed British colony, created after colonies weren’t cool anymore so they had to call it “Mandate”. The people in palestine need help though, because they are obviously unable to help themselves.

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    We need to share social media feeds from Israel, posted by Israels. Some interest stuff in there.

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        2 months ago

        I’m not posting that stuff or giving links to it. Trying to get me banned for posting death videos and racism?

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          No, you didn’t specify what it was you were talking about. My only social media is Lemmy. I did not assume Israeli social media was fucking death videos.

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            They post videos like it is 1950s USA. Screaming about killing children and getting rid of their blood line. Its wild.

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            It can’t all be. I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide, and there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.

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              It’s hard to find trustworthy information about Israeli support for the actions of their country in Gaza and the west-bank from 2026, but the numbers that did show up earlier make me sadder everytime. These two article reference the same data, from one year ago. I have no reason to believe Israeli support for the people in Palestine. The small group of people who stand up against war seem to do that mostly because the life of Israeli soldiers (who are conscripted teenagers really). It’s unclear to me how well informed the public is about the scale of the war crimes, but it is obvious to everyone the army purposefully targets non-combatants (children, doctors, journalists, civilians) and in general it seems the public supports that.

              A new poll published in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reveals that genocidal rhetoric, once confined to Israel’s extremist settler fringe, has now moved into the mainstream, with overwhelming public support for ethnic cleansing, mass killings, and biblical revenge.

              Conducted by the Geocartography Knowledge Group for Penn State University in March 2025, the survey of 1,005 Israeli Jews paints a chilling picture of a society increasingly radicalised by religious nationalism and emboldened by war.

              https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043

              The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

              Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: “Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?” The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.

              https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

              Let that headline sink in: Nearly half of Israelis support army killing all Palestinians in Gaza.

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I am just gonna say it too:
    Fuck society
    Fuck humans
    Fuck this Saturday (*depending on timezone)

    Can’t we just fucking live in a sort of harmony? PLEASE.

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    This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

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      82% of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of All Palestinians, which is a textbook crime against humanity.

      56% support removing every arab/Palestinian CITIZEN of Israel from israel permanently, and revoking their Israeli citizenship based on their race.

      47% agreed with the idea of killing every single Palestinian like the biblical wars in their book.

      https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

      So theres no need to bend over backward to protect the Israeli public. No one assigned these views to them, this is what the vast majority of them choose to believe. many people on this thread try so hard to separate them from their government and assign all the crimes to the government. Except for a tiny majority, this murder and ethnic cleansing is exactly what they say they want and what they support. The problem is not just their governments, its the vast majority of the people too.

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      I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.

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      I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.

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      Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

      https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

      https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

      That doesn’t mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it’s even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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      Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it’s hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn’t forget people aren’t their governments.

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          And even they are mostly decent people, just misguided by propaganda/misinformation.

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            No. I’ve had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.

            Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.

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              Most people aren’t born hateful. They’re taught it, and you can unteach it too.

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                I judge people based on their choices and actions.

                Some have chosen to embrace the hatred. And so I judge them for it.

                At this point in my life, I’m not interested in attempting to redeem people who have chosen evil.

            • bryophile@lemmy.zip
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              If you hold everyone 100% responsible for their actions, including supporting or condoning governments that mess up this world, contributing to global warming, consumption under capitalism, choices they did not foresee the outcome off, mistakes, etc., then there are no decent people in this world at all.

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        Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they’re indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn’t dictate the person

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    Correct me if I’m wrong… But don’t Zionists say that we’re their slaves and after they’re done slaughtering innocent Palestinians they’re going to try to wipe everyone out that isn’t an Israeli?

    I’m stretching a bit with my comment but I’m 90% sure that Israel expects us all to just slave for them.

    Most western countries are on their knees for Israel… Can’t wait to see how they get in front of Xi Jinping and expect him to bow down.

    (Oh… That’s right America will go to war with China to help Israel).

    Fuck Israel

      • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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        Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the “fuck israel” has to be derived from “free Palestine” and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they’re allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy

        There’s a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.

        I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.

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          No I think Ill make my own choice on that, thanks. If I want to hate the oppressors AND the oppression thats my business. I want vengeance for the afronts to humanity. Its not just all fine if the oppression stops. Debts are now owed in a big way.

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            Justice should often include consequences (and does include consequences in cases of genocide), but if you set the goal as retribution you may lose sight of what justice would actually entail. They are not at all the same thing.

            And if we’re choosing between justice and retribution, one of those is a better choice that better honors the suffering of the oppressed than the other.

            I’m not saying only do one. I’m saying one of them must come from the other. One of them comes first.

        • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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          Mossad fucked with EVERYONE’S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.

          And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.

          Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.

          Now I’m not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.

          • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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            The place you’re saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.

            Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You’re talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.

            You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn’t make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.

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              You don’t understand, so long as there’s some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That’s the specific issue here.

              Of course, it’s someone else’s problem how to solve this ethically 🎵

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    2 state solution.

    No more Iran and US intervention.

    Sanctions on Israel to rebuild.

    If they managed peace in the balkans, then you can find peace anywhere.

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      Would germany want a 2 state solutions with the nazis? No. They obliterated them and send them to a tribunal.

      No more nazis as a state. Now the modern germany exists.

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          holy shit do you even know what im talking about? do metaphors just goes straight above your head? here, let me do THE work for you.

          The nazis are BAAAAD The germans, some are GOOOOD They want BAAAAD people to go away They want BAAAAAAAD people to be afraid so they kill, murder, and tribune their problems away

          They dont want a two state solution, if it exist, because who the fuck wants to make peace with an organization that kills without care for the sake of glory?

          God, Sometimes I thought I was still on reddit. Please think before saying, “not this shit again”. Touch grass. Meet real people. Actually, meet palestinians and ask them directly why they dont want a two state solution, which the test of the west wants.

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            You should probably learn to choose your words more wisely.

            Don’t belittle the atrocities of the nazis by comparing their victims to them. It’s fucking disgusting.

            What a brilliant idea. Ask the israelis if they want a two state solution. What do you think the answer will be? Find peace in a compromise that stops the killings.

            I compared the fights to the atrocities in the balkans, which is a WAY more apt metaphor, but you also don’t seem like the kind of person that reads about conflicts. It seems that you just want to follow the edgy opinion without thought.