• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    I have a friend who proudly claims to be a Christian Republican and that being gay is a sin and wrong. Then he will say in the same breath that he is gay and mean it. I have never seen something of the sort and it nearly shorts my wires. Idk what’s going on there but its the same vibe.

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      Christians are really, really good at seeing themselves at the good guys no matter the circumstances. They just kind of ignore that the only reason they’re the dominant religion in the world is that they murdered most of their enemies over two millennia.

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      I mean…according to the bible it IS a sin and wrong. But have you ever really read that thing? Technically were not allowed to go to the bathroom.

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        It’s not even originally in the Bible’s earliest translations to prohibit gay sex, originally it just condemned pedophilic sex and attraction and it was changed to target gay people instead of the church’s own clergy.

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          Turns out when you’re the only one reading the book, you can take “divine inspiration” and make a few tweaks to update the book to what magical sky daddy really meant. Same goes for those translating the books…

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          What do you mean “originally”? Did it get translated and the translation changed the meaning? Or is this the original language of the Bible had multiple versions?

          If it’s the latter, I find that interesting as that is never discussed.

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            It’s a translation thing. If you look at the Greek and Hebrew texts, the verses in Leviticus are likely talking about pederasty and not homosexuality, given the phrasing and historical context.

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              That’s what I was thinking. Makes you wonder if there was intentionality in changing the words, or if it was something else. Or maybe it was god working though the translator.

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                100% intentional. The original kony Greek makes it clear it’s about men fucking little boys. If they wanted to write don’t have sex with other men they would have written that.

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            The Bible is rarely translated accurately afaik, and one of the big translations (the kjv) is basically entirely bullshit agenda pushing from a single specific king in Europe.

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                Well I have multiple sources in my past that have proven it to me and you have a YouTube video.

                I will watch it later, but it will have to be a hell of a video to change my mind, but one should always be open to change

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                  Well, the guy in the video has a PhD and is a scholar of religious studies, so I’m inclined to believe him. I have also seen sources in my past that have shown it to be untrue, if that’s what were using as evidence.

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        In the text about Sodom and Gomorra the way I understand it God is punishing them for wanting to rape the angel or whoever it was who’s sleeping there. Not for it being a gay act when men rape a man.

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        You also can’t mix fabrics, or do anything strenuous on Saturday. And you’re allowed to both own and beat your slaves so long as when you do so, they don’t die.

        It’s insanely fucked up if you read the entire thing. Like, religious people are typically fine with me, I don’t tell them this stuff even if they do want to discuss it… But I read the Bible through a few times as a kid, and every since then I’ve had a healthy fear of Christians that both believe, and regularly read their Bible.

        If they just go to church, that’s fine. Most churches cherry pick only the good verses (although let’s be real, very few Christians follow the good stuff anyway.)

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        That does explain why all the bullshit comes out when they speak instead.

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      The outright lie of “hate the sin, not the sinner,” has poisoned the minds of so many people.

      I bet your friend lies to himself every day in an attempt to “live a straight lifestyle.” Literally trying to be someone he is not.

      Growing up in an Evangelical church, and looking back, it was everywhere. Some of the nicest folks (usually even parents of friends) were SO OBVIOUSLY GAY. I think the one or two I’m thinking of even came out years after I left the church and I remember feeling so happy for them.

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        So one of my teachers for 5th and 6th grade had a wife and two daughters. Very Christian. It was only when we got a little older in junior high school that we realized holy shit Mr S is so gay. It was obvious in retrospect. He was a real powertripping asshole, and thinking back on it I wonder if that behavior came from not letting himself be his true self.

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          It’s such a shame what religion does to people. Yeah, it sucked to find out that there’s (probably) nothing else after this life. But on the other hand, I can’t even describe how much of a relief it was to no longer have to think about “sin” as a concept.

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    It’s ok, I’ve been rooting for Trump’s sudden death from an artery clog and that’s far more likely.

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      The fear in his eyes becomes palpable as he blames the Democrats for his heart attack with his dying breath, slumping unceremoniously into his Big Mac.

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        I see trump as more of a toilet death. I see him slumped against the sink, with people crying and tweeting, but no one thinking to move him for dignity, too busy filming their blackmail videos against his legacy.

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        Worst part is they would still make a martyr out of him in between trying and failing to boycott McDonalds.

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          It’d end up spinning out of control with magical thinking.

          Two weeks later you’d hear people babbling about how he actually faked his own death so he could control things behind the scenes, and also he was actually assassinated by the deepstate

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      Is there any way he could die that won’t end up as a conspiracy?

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        Damn. Honestly? No. Even if he died tomorrow of natural causes, or something seemingly obvious or straightforward, you know that story would be spun a dozen different ways and he would come out as a martyr/savior/god king or whatever in each one.

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          Maybe the only way to deal with it would be to sort circuit things like if he was shot on live tv by musk after a conversation where musk calls trump musk and vis versa

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        I’m not sure I would believe it, on the news articles alone. “Trump incinerated by Biden on capital steps” or " McDonald’s smashes trump’s throat" are titles I would expect on any old Tuesday

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        Most ways. I doubt anyone is conspiring to give him a heart attack, stroke, cancer, etc.

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              Man some of those weirdos and fox news will argue that trump is actually in great health so natural causes won’t change anything, as for conspiring you can bend something like of they can go after him they can go after anyone to almost any cause

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      I’m hoping for a stoke just bad enough he can’t talk but he does live. It would be hell for him until he does go.

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    Plot twist: They vote for him anyway, and then pray to get the first female president (who is hopefully less Zionist)

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    Log Cabin Republicans

    I mean talking about double face palming and just not wanting to take your hands off your face anymore. Blacks for Trump! Jews for Hitler! Let’s just all go full retard and get it over with.

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    Gay Republicans? Has anyone ever told them about the general position of their party towards people who are not white and straight?

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    They’re rooting for it by reposting a meme that wordplays with “2024” and “1942–2024”, not in a professional capacity.

    Last year, the organization named Isabella Riley Moody – a rightwing troll who has called gay people “groomers,” supported Uganda’s “Kill the Gays” law, and declared “Heil Hitler” – as one of their “Outspoken Ambassadors for 2023.”

    The Log Cabin Republicans later removed her from their website.