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  • Coming from someone who always votes left down the ticket because I live in a republican state hell hole:

    There’s a reason we want democrats in charge. They aren’t perfect, but my state had a democrat governor (somehow) for 8 years until this year. The very first thing the supermajority red government did was axe the ethics board. The next thing they did was pass laws banning books that acknowledged gay culture at all and a unilateral bathroom bill with felony penalties.

    The “both sides are the different flavors of fascism” take only works when you’re completely blind to what republicans are actually out there doing.









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    Ah yes, the old “my solutions are the only ones that work” Good luck with that.

    By the way, deciding that everyone but you is a fascist is a great way to not have allies.

    spread disinformation swearing up and down that leftists do nothing but tell people not to vote (which I’ve literally NEVER seen, by the way, not that fascists care about reality.)

    Bro. Look around. There are people saying they won’t vote democrat here in this comment section, much less the whole of leftist lemmy.

    Block me, I don’t care. There’s no point in arguing with someone virtue signaling as hard as you are anyway.

    Hope you don’t mind being blocked back. I don’t have time to argue with an idealist basement dweller about some imaginary solutions that make him feel better


  • ^ Someone who sees the problem and offers no solution, just like everyone else with their position

    You can fly your pride flags all you want but you’re throwing Palestinians under the bus to protect your warmongering corporatist status quo

    There are no good guys. Only bad guys and much worse guys. Guess you want to virtue signal your way into the much worse guy so you can feel better? That’s great, but maybe when we’re lynching lgbtq folk as well as Palestinians you might consider looking in a mirror and wondering if your inaction made things worse.

    Or, more likely, you’ll complain about how doing something doesn’t matter while the actual fascists you can’t tell the difference between set their sights on another marginalized group.

    Do something or join the people who are.






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    One day you will get the point that the reality is that we as voters don’t make the rules.

    Yeah, you’re right. We’re boxed into this shitty ass system. Grandstanding about how shitty it is doesn’t magically create a solution.

    We vote for the least worst option and try to make progress towards a better situation in the future. It’s either that or we fall to actual fascists who would rather take the vote away.


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    Yeah, about 1% of the voting body. The point that conservatives don’t vote for a third party stands with a margin of error within 1%.

    Contrast that to the 8 other independent or left leaning third parties on the ballot in 2020.

    You’re trying to shut down my original point with a counter point that is both moot and also trying really hard to be made on a technicality.



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    Why indeed? The fact is that not enough people vote for third parties for it to matter by an order of magnitude.

    Conservatives don’t vote third party. When we do, we split our own vote in the face of a party that has their base on lock.

    Because that logic is abundantly obvious, people don’t vote third party enough to make a difference. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. And it’s so effective at actually splitting the vote that both parties have attempted running spoiler candidates in the past to do just that.

    Why doesnt everyone just vote third party? Because enough people who could are afraid that it will mean degrading democracy by handing over the reigns if it doesn’t work, thereby creating the very problem that they are afraid of.


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    Asserting this is obtusely ignoring the context that conservative voters have no qualms about voting for someone grossly immoral.

    There aren’t conservatives out there saying “Yeah well I was gonna vote for Trump but he supports genociding Palestinians”.

    The fact that conservatives don’t have this problem and everyone else does means that, yes, you are enabling Trump by not voting Biden. The “logic” necessarily does not work the other way around, even if you say it like some sort of clever gotcha with a complex emoji.