On the instance I’m using, my comments and posts have disappeared. It is ok?

I had a few helpful comments here that I saved, but it’s all gone.

Having got used to the stability in Mastodon I was surprised by such things in Lemmy as:

Unable to log into your account through the app after an update on the server.

Unable to log into your account through the app if your instance version is out of date.

Just because you’ve created a post or written a comment doesn’t mean other Lemmy users will see it.

I have to constantly check to see if my messages are visible on other instances.

You also need to have many sub-accounts on different instances in case some of the primary instances are unavailable.

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    901·
    10 months ago

    I have wildly more patience for Lemmy’s glitches than I do for Reddit’s. Lemmy’s devs are working on a shoestring budget with just a few people trying to prop up a whole social network. The project is still pretty early in its life cycle.

    • Lmaydev@programming.dev
      291·
      10 months ago

      A lot of the mentioned issues are caused by instances having different versions.

      This could be fixed with API versioning. As in you support the last couple versions of the API rather than only the new one.

      • pixelscript@lemmy.mlEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        I believe this most recent update to v0.19 was somewhat unique in the regard of login incompatibility across versions, as major breaking changes to authentication itself were the focus of it.

      • ChaosAD@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 months ago

        Yeah but take into account nobody was expecting reddit enshitificate so fast.

        Before we get the massive exodus things were smooth.

        • Lmaydev@programming.dev
          1·
          10 months ago

          Yeah I’m sure it revealed a lot of scaling issues and other bugs.

          It’s often considered bad practise to prematurely optimize software. But when working at scale little things can start to really bite.

    • magnetosphere@kbin.social
      91·
      10 months ago

      Exactly. Those people are paid salaries. They have teams working on things. When something is allowed to go wrong, someone either didn’t do the job they’re paid for, or they’re incompetent/apathetic. They’re using proven software that’s been around a while.

      When there’s a problem with a Lemmy instance, then maybe the one person responsible was at the job that actually pays their rent. They’re working with beta software that’s full of “surprises”.

    • Sticker@lemy.nlOP
      5·
      10 months ago

      Since your reply to the post for xarexyouxmadx is not visible from this instance, I will reply here.

      We at SDF had some outgoing federation issues recently, and we weren’t the only ones.

      Has this problem gone unresolved for a long time?
      Right now, a similar issue with the instance lemmy.today

      Also, my original instance (vlemmy) literally deleted itself in July.

      The first instance I was registered on doesn’t exist anymore either. It was celeb.pizza

  • grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world
    692·
    10 months ago

    As a developer, I am absolutely amazed that any of this (all the software you are using, all of it) even works a little. So: no.

    I independently came up with “federation” (as in thought of it but not exactly this, and was building on others work) as the basis for a masters thesis in the early 2000s but left the program to get a job so never saw it through.

    So, no, I am not annoyed. I am amazed, grateful, impressed, and humbled but I am not annoyed.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      191·
      10 months ago

      Great take. Everything in the software world is held together with twine. It’s a miracle that anything works. That’s the only kind of miracle or magic that I believe in. As someone on a mailing list once said about networking, “it’s two cans and some string.”

    • kakes@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      10 months ago

      Could also be issues with their particular instance - particularly the “instance out of date” one.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      Yea I haven’t noticed much

      Boost for Lemmy & web app

      The 0.19 update was special since it modified the auth stuff. But a quick log out and in was all I needed.

      The comments not appearing on other instances is a fair point, but I imagine something similar happens on Mastodon as well

  • Pratai@lemmy.ca
    30·
    10 months ago

    I’ve not seen a single one of those glitches since I’ve been an active user.

  • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    30·
    10 months ago

    I’ve made the assessment that the growing pains are worth weathering, because Lemmy as a platform and wider community gives me much more joy than any big corpo platform I’ve ever tried.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
      4·
      10 months ago

      I think many of us feel that way. Just getting away from that shit is worth a lot of smaller glitches here on Lemmy. :)

  • xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world
    17·
    10 months ago

    I’m on Lemmy.world & using the eternity app I haven’t had any real issues yet but it’s only been about 2 months for me since I started using this platform.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      We at SDF had some outgoing federation issues recently, and we weren’t the only ones. I.e., I’d post or comment something and check from any other instance, and it was like I never posted/commented at all. Fortunately, it seems to have gotten fixed over Christmas Eve.

      Also, my original instance (vlemmy) literally deleted itself in July.

  • StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org
    15·
    10 months ago

    I’m willing to put up with Lemmy’s glitches. The vast majority of admins, mods, and developers are volunteers doing what they do (largely for free) simply because they think it’s worth doing. If it were a product I paid for I would not be near as chill about it.

    Lemmy was a fairly young project when everyone started piling in from Reddit. If the glitches you’re experiencing bother you that badly, perhaps consider contributing to the project, the network or your homeserver. Open source projects work best when everyone contributes what they can, when they can and as they can.

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
    15·
    10 months ago

    Personally, every bug I’ve encountered has been because of my lemmy mobile client and not lemmy itself. This is remarkable to me, I work in QA and was expecting a lot more bugs when I joined

  • spittingimage@lemmy.world
    12·
    10 months ago

    Not really.

    If it was commercial software, I’d assume that some dick project manager forced a premature release. Fuck that guy.

    Since it isn’t, I just assume it’s really hard to get everything right first try without a big QA team.

  • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
    121·
    10 months ago

    a little, but I’m dealing with it. 18 or so years ago, when reddit was new, it had a lot of bugs, was unstable, and would often go down for upgrades and maintenance.

    although lemmy has been around for a few years, it hasn’t really been run or even tested as a serious platform until last summer when tens of thousands of new users flocked to it suddenly from reddit and both a bunch of new instances popped up and a bunch of new and rapid software releases brought a bunch of new features to handle the sudden growth. some growing pains are to be expected and, frankly, it’s all gone far more smoothly than I expected it would.

    • phillaholic@lemm.ee
      56·
      10 months ago

      18 Years ago I was more patient with things like that. Today my patience is only for shit that matters.

      • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
        111·
        10 months ago

        aaaaand why don’t you think that taking the time to work out the bugs on this platform matters?

        you do realize that this - all of this here that we’re participating in - is part of a big experiment run purely on volunteer work by a community-driven effort, and is entirely funded thereby. there’s no corporate effort at play here and no megabucks to bankroll it. that’s kinda the point of it all. so, if you’re dissatisfied with that state of things or by what you perceive as a lack of progress, I suggest you roll up your sleeves and dig in, contribute your time and effort to the development, or find some other way to contribute to the project and/or community in furtherance of its goals.

        whining here about those things will get you precisely nowhere— especially when you either imply or outright declare that any of this doesn’t matter— or the idea that you’re entitled to something for nothing.

        • phillaholic@lemm.ee
          33·
          10 months ago

          My family matters. My work matters. My pleasure activities matter. Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.

          • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
            21·
            10 months ago

            nobody here doubts that you’re selfish and self-centered with no care for anyone but yourself.

            Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.

            then why are you here trying so hard?

            • phillaholic@lemm.ee
              22·
              10 months ago

              You’re calling me selfish for caring about my family, work, and real life things instead of the Internet? That’s just sad man.

              • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
                11·
                10 months ago

                What’s sad is that you have to twist my words to excuse your behavior.

                And if you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have been spending the last couple of days trying so hard to convince me.

                • phillaholic@lemm.ee
                  21·
                  10 months ago

                  I’ve said very little, you seem like the one trying to convince yourself. 🤷‍♂️

  • Elise@beehaw.org
    11·
    10 months ago

    Ya sometimes my posts magically are deleted or hidden or pictures don’t upload. But still a great experience for me due to the wholesomeness.

    And it’s awesome that you can use pictures in comments.

        • voxel@sopuli.xyz
          1·
          10 months ago

          people don’t use it for some reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
          all third party clients display markdown images fully inline, all official clients either require a click or show a small thumbnail

    • Sticker@lemy.nlOP
      2·
      10 months ago

      Was reading comments through the RaccoonForLemmy app and your comment looked like this:
      Screenshot

      After a while, the app froze and closed by itself. However, after I reopened the app everything looked normal.

  • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.comEnglish
    10·
    10 months ago

    I’m self-hosting and it has been ridiculously smooth coupled with Voyager as my mobile app. Now I understand that a single user instance is a lot easier to handle than a multi-user one so I naturally don’t have any experience or opinion on how Lemmy instances scale with users in terms of stability.

    • Sticker@lemy.nlOP
      2·
      10 months ago

      Right now, another bug has manifested itself. Your message is shown in the “Replies” tab in Jerboa’s inbox, but it is not visible in the comments of the message thread.

      For a few months, I couldn’t log into this instance through apps.
      Yesterday, the lemmy.today instance stopped sending posts and messages to the Lemmy network. I only found out about it when I logged in through another instance in asklemmy and saw that my post wasn’t in the community.

      • eldain@feddit.nl
        6·
        10 months ago

        This happened to me when my language settings weren’t set. You can’t even access them in jerboa, log in with a browser and check if English is selected besides default. And whatever else you wish to see.