i’m trying to ignore the well meaning lib reaction to the us midterms but holy shit this one gobsmacked me. they live in a different fucking world

genuinely how and why can they possibly believe this

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    Data scientists have shown there was no decrease in far right content on social media after the Russian data center got blown up. There sure appears to have been an uptick in pro-Ukraine content though.

    Have been been any studies to determine if there’s a link between far right content online and data centers being built in the US? Probably not. The cia would probably disappear anyone who tried to publish one.

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    The Ukraine/Anti-Russia propaganda is genuinely the single most successful bit of US propaganda I can think of. So many libs both in the US and throughout the west have just completely lost the plot, it was so well orchestrated with major celebrities all loudly giving support. But it might be too successful, it might’ve just full on broken their brains and everything now needs to be framed in this “Russia bad but Ukraine protects us from them” worldview, even as Ukraine actively collapses and the western press is forced to admit that Ukraine’s leadership were just a bunch of Nazi thugs the entire time.

    A lot of people have been thinking about the eventuality that these libs will all eventually start insisting “they never supported Ukrainian and Zelensky” but a scarier idea might be that they will never actually admit that, and might just be permanently stuck in this Ukraine mindset, even as Ukrainian neo-nazi terrorists attack people throughout Europe they’ll still insist that they’re all secretly Russian and Russia has just “infiltrated” or “brainwashed” anyone who says otherwise.

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      If there’s one thing I’ve learned about libs in the last couple of years it’s that their ability to deny reality and contort whatever they see to fit into their preconceived bizzaroworld worldview is infinitely elastic.

      Eventually I think it might just drive them mad.

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    “There’s no such thing as a right-wing American. The only people who would think otherwise must be bots!”

    Have you EVER actually lived in the US? Like almost everywhere you go it’s someone talking about how they want minorities dead.

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    Russia-gate libs are still a thing. Trump being gay for Putin is still a meme being circulated by them. They not-listening on anything that’s critical of Dems or Ukraine still.

    Just completely blue MAGA brainworms

    If you try to tell them Iran started the blue wave, they will likely be pissed, but Zel is still a hero for them.

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    They hear “bots” and they assume it’s computers posting on social media. Tech literacy is at an all time low. It has become magic to these people at this point.

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        But to be clear, almost none of that has been affected at all by these data centers going down. The bot traffic from those data centers had nothing to do with that.

        It’s not that kind of bot traffic.

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    I can answer that since I was similar to this in high school, you simply dont see it. Theres so much bullshit going on, too much holy shit, that libs do have a bubble they live in. The oligarchs didnt spend the last 50 years buying up global media for nothing. The good news is a lot of these people in reality when you talk to then can be guided more left. But dont take this wrong, the brunch treatler types are the most common in the US.

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      It’s because for a lot of people politics are largely performative and used by Americans to feed their inherent need to act like they’re better than everyone else no matter what their leaning is.

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        Being an American who cares about Politics within the treat-spectacle bubble probably means you’re being paid, or you have too much free time and want to be applauded for watching a sport. I’m self conscious of this and definitely have justified following what at the end of the day is a TV show in similar ways. If you want to stay informed, keep it within the context of real organizing or historical study, and don’t get lost in the kayfabe.

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    I need blue anon to fuck off, but it’ll probably get worse before it gets better. No idea what their jan 6 would be though given they lack a basic backbone.

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    they live in a different fucking world

    this is the key, everyone is in their own media silo now so the Blue MAGA libs are contained within their echo chamber wnere you never have to see or hear them except for the occasional lemmy lib wandering in here

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      Tragically I think they don’t really care much about him. They hate that prices have gone up. If he had done the exact same stuff but had lowered gas prices they’d be fine with him.

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        This fact is honestly part of why I’m such a doomer.

        They could let it slide that Trump is a convicted SAer and an obvious pedophile who started a war with Iran after promising no new wars, refused to release the full unredacted Epstein Files after promising to do so, or that his party passed a bill effectively legalising AI generated CSAM so long as it “doesn’t use the faces of real children”, but gas prices increasing is what is too far for them.

        The West is cooked.

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        Eh, I haven’t done a ton of research on this but I’ve seen some analysis suggesting that it’s more that:

        1: Texas is a lot more urban and diverse now. They usually countered that via gerrymandering but gerrymandering can only off set the effect so much.

        2: Trump has totally lost the conservative Hispanic vote which used to help him out in the southwest a lot.

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      If they did they would try to distance their policies from him. They would take a cold hard look at what America’s current policies on everything is and take the hard opposite stance. But they never do that. They always hedge and say the left goes too far and that they need to compromise and reach across the aisle. People who “really hate trump” outside of kayfabe don’t do that