• Chana [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Every petite bougie’s natural first instinct when faced with slight profit loss is a capital strike lmao. Best part is that as petite, they mostly hurt themselves in this.

    The ones that rent like one property and clean themselves have to spend a few minutes every few days doing dishes and sweeping. You know, labor like everyone else.

    The ones with many properties just need to pay cleaning staff for an extra 5-10 minutes.

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    Imagine a hotel giving you a chore list after you give them hundreds of dollars, where do these landlord parasites get off

    People are giving you passive income to stay in your house for a few days, you should be on your knees with a toothbrush scrubbing out the smallest stain before the guest arrives, after you put a couple boxes of free doughnuts and pizzas on the counter

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    I hope to see much more of their crash outs. I hope the entire platform implodes and the people who’ve given them money are just out of luck.

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    The landloid brainpan is predisposed to entitled behavior - they subconsciously believe that all other people owe them a debt of gratitude just for pursuing their own financial interests, and become incensed when their personal desires aren’t elevated by those in their surrounding social spheres.

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    I have a client that’s an Air Bed and Breakfast guy. He’s pleasant enough as a person, but boy.

    He’s a janitor. From the ages to 18 to 40 (now), his day job is cleaning. But as soon as he inherited his grandparent’s 3 bedroom house back in 2022, he’s supplemented his income by renting it out. And because he and his wife took out a mortgage in 2021, he went from owning 0 houses to 2 in the span of 16 months. In the last couple years, with advice from his boss at his day job, he decided to shift from being a landlord (bad) to being an AirBnB host (bad, but with delusions of being a hotelier).

    It’s fascinating. He went from renting at the age of 16/17 after getting kicked out of home, to being a homeowner in 2021, to owning 2 houses by the end of 2022. The change in him in the last 7 or 8 years of knowing him has been… drastic. It’s like observing corruption happen in real time.

    At the very least, and this is a very tiny credit, he cleans the place himself.

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      At the very least, and this is a very tiny credit, he cleans the place himself.

      you know, i have never been to an airbnb that didnt clean after itself. im starting to think that these ‘great landlords’ are actually the fucking worst of the worst, so bad that airbnb is curbing on them because of its brand awareness

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        Oh I mean he cleans the place himself in the sense that he descales the shower walls and scrubs the kitchen/shower and vacuums and dusts and so on. For a lot of AirBnB landlords, they offload that onto cleaners then bake the price into the asking price. Worse yet, there are those who don’t even bother doing that.

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      I was told one of the biggest dipshits I’ve ever known, who I will always rant about a little bit when he’s mentioned, is currently trying to be an Airbnb guy. Also trying to be a parasite influencer despite selling one house to get another, and now has almost no one booking the new property.

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      I don’t understand how or why, but hotels have gotten to a point where if you pay what you can afford you’re probably not in for a good time. The few times I have to travel and we stay somewhere, it’s always mind-blowing how bad the options are. Of course it’s typical capitalism, but fucking hell it’s so fucking bleak. And let me tell you, the mattresses are fucking ROCKS. I have hip issues and the last time we stayed somewhere I ended up in the bathtub with pillows because it was more comfortable.

      One time we booked a place when I was still trying to get top surgery and was seeing the doctor (long story short, capitalism said I had to keep my tits) I saved up my paycheck for months and we barely made it work. The place was in shambles. There were holes in the wall and the lock to the bathroom was busted and the door was on its hinge. This was after they moved us because the first place they had us had a inch of standing water. This was like, last year. Amazingly, the reviews didn’t mention this at all.

      All that to say, can we end capitalism already???

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    I feel like multi-property airbnb hosts aren’t even petite-bourgeois since their just landlords. I feel like their just big bourgeoisie

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      Rent-seeking is just kind of a different form of bourgeois than bosses. They converge at higher scales, but when they’re small enough that they operate on distinct terms, I think you can call them both petty. But it’s tough to say exactly. For boss-type bougies, it’s super straightforward - if their labor is still required for the operation to run, they’re petty. Not so clear with landlords. Maybe if it reaches a threshold where they no longer need a separate laboring job?

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      Imo unless they have a huge operation where an entire staff of employees is running everything for them, they’re still petit bourg.

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          Many likely do not own the houses outright. The bank owns it, and they are using the business to pay off the mortgage.

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          Yeah but a few houses is still relatively precarious to the big bourg. I’m thinking the transition point is maybe a dozen or so properties.

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            The transition point is not the number of properties just like it isn’t the dollar amount of income. The transition point is whether or not, in the method they are using, they need to contribute their own labor beyond perfunctory business decisions and things of that nature. If someone has one unit, but due to inflated rental prices it can be fully maintained and mostly managed by employees, then the owner is bourgeois. Realistically, you need more units than that, but it’s not about a pre-defined number of units (which by the way isn’t accounting for variance among units). It varies place to place based on rent inflation, labor laws, housing regulation, taxation, etc.

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    Can anyone tell me how much money they saved by staying at an AirBnB instead of literally any other motel or hotel in the area? Are they situated in better areas that it’s worth it? I don’t get it otherwise.

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      I believe when it started out it did the thing most companies do and charged much lower prices than hotels, which is what led to their success, like how Uber was cheaper than a taxi. But now they’ve jacked up the prices and it’s basically just like staying in a hotel except you have a list of arbitrary rules put forth by the pettiest of petite bourgeois.

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      I’ve never used AirBnB, but from what I’ve seen from people who have used it, it used to be considerably cheaper than a hotel, but now it’s pretty much the same price thanks to kulaks making it a full time business instead of a regular person letting you crash at their place.

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      I often travel in a decently large group like 5+ with a variety of bedroom needs for a laundry list of legitimate reasons. It is often significantly cheaper to get an airbnb somewhere with all the rooms we need than that many hotel rooms. Imagine we need 4 rooms, can often find that at an air BNB for half or less of what a hotel would cost. Not always though, sometimes we do just get 4 hotel rooms

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      In addition to the other comments, Airbnbs were also often more likely than hotels to offer in-unit kitchens I haven’t used Airbnb in years, but a big draw for me, personally, was saving money on food because I could cook at my lodging.

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      Twice.

      My ex booked one once for a trip to an out of town wedding because AirBnB had the only dog friendly options for accomodation in that postcode. We were travelling with our friend and her partner and their dog.

      I’m not sure how much or even if we saved any money getting it, but if a dog sitter was included, it’s unlikely.

      The second time was my housemate getting one. Also related to a wedding, coincidentally. It was for a bucks (or stags or bachelor’s in other English dialects). I don’t recall the exact numbers, but it was almost a grand cheaper than a hotel in the same town over the same 3 nights.

      All of these things were pre-COVID, no idea if they’re accurate currently.

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    The only time I stay at Airbnbs is the family get-together in the summer. (aka, I don’t pay for it) and like this is just shit we do anyway? What the actual fuck? Sure we always double-check the requirements but I can’t imagine just leaving a bunch of dirt and trash all over the place? It’s always amazing to me how much some people just live in different worlds than me.

    Part of this isn’t being taught; it’s just having a mom who has worked at Walmart all my life. If that work is doing horrible shit to my mom, then it’s doing bad shit to everyone. So I can at least do my part to make sure I’m not making some worker’s life a living hell than it already is. This was shit I figured out for myself when I was like 8? What’s really fun is that other family members would get irritated with me if I demanded we put items up where they needed to go when we were out shopping.

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      The more wealth someone has the more they tend to travel. Anecdote, but my business shithead cousin destroys every place he stays and just pays whatever fines.