• pronounced ɱɐɢ @lemmygrad.ml
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        Not to mention how fucking horny they are. Can’t go one line in the community section without seeing softcore porn. I have sexual content turned off. Probably so much more upsetting to me because I’m ace.

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          Same. I’m like.

          “Bro, you’re an American puritan! You think sexuality is a sin! Why are you engaging in something you think is sinful?!”

          I’m sure their logic is “I’m such a perfect little boy for Jeebus, it’s my reward for conforming so well.”

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            Gamer-nazis aren’t puritans. Puritanism doesn’t even really exist anymore, but the faction who are trying to sensor sexual content via payment processors are a different group from the very consumerist gamer-nazis.

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              “Puritanism doesn’t even really exist anymore” he says in a thread full of people complaining about “gooner games” and treating sexual artwork like its inherently lesser than our pure christianity approved natoslop and being horny is a sin weird gooner thing

              its not like sex workers have been systemically oppressed for decades or anything lol

              im sure it doesnt exist tho, wonder-who-thats-for

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                I think large parts of hexbear still have this mindset, which I struggle to be shocked at but am disappointed in yea anybody who uses “gooner” as a descriptor I immediately don’t trust


                ⓘ Remember to enable JPEG-XL support in your browser, even on your phone!

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                Don’t forget that the concept of expressing one’s sexuality in creative works didn’t exist until capitalists invented it in the 20th century! Horny media is a novel cognitohazard that will fry your brain and definitely not something humans have been doing since before recorded history /s

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                its not like sex workers have been systemically oppressed for decades or anything lol

                Centuries or millenia, but I don’t think people here are complaining about sex workers, they are comaining about, e.g. “misogynistic haremslop visual novel/rpg #5,000,000,000,000,002” and things like that.

                Edit: sorry, the community section, so I guess they mean “misogynistic sex slave dungeon slop #10,000,000,000,000,000,003”

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                  complaining about the existence of sexual artwork and acting like its inherently lesser because its sexual its still puritanism lmao

                  “generic” or not doesnt matter, and the problem there is misogyny and heteronormativity. literally that exact same misogyny argument is used for sex work lmao. also creating sexual artwork is a form of sex work.

                  wonder-who-thats-for

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                    Yes, the reason I don’t like all the mods where you enslave women and throw them in a dungeon to molest them is that I’m a misogynist being sex negative, you got me. I’m an oppressive misogynist and virulently heteronormative and puritanical when I express displeasure at the huge mass of media that exists almost entirely made by and for hetero dudes to enact r___ fantasies. I can’t believe finally someone figured me out.

                    Incidentally common definitions of “sex work” often exclude something like drawing sexual artwork (contrast with modeling, voice acting, etc.) and regardless I think it’s counterproductively flattening to call all the people making these mods the same thing we call escorts with no distinction in the social history of these jobs.

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                Puritianism isn’t just stodgy conservatives, it’s a specific strain. “Gooner” insults here are from more like annoverlap between male-negative patriarchy and liberal-style feminism where hating a specific kind of low-totem man is okay. It’s why no one here applies “goon” adjective to romantasy stuff when it’s sociologically similar.

                Capitalism killed puritanism the same way it killed a bunch of other feudal ideologies.

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                  “its a specific strain” ah yes there is no strain of extremely sex negative patriarchal people under capitalism, they simply dont exist? lol? this is such a nothing statement

                  and famously women dont get horny or get off or play horny video games?

                  people dont apply “goon” to romantasy stuff because they like romantasy and can pretend its a completely different thing. famously reactionaries are extremely consistent with their beliefs and how they apply them,

                  you can jump through as many hoops as you want to say “no no im not a puritan this is bog standard reactionary slop not a super special strain of reactionary slop” but that doesnt change the fact you sound the exact same as the person that calls a woman in a bikini “goon bait” and call people who look at pornography “dgenerates”

                  or complaining about “unnecessary sex scenes” in movies because you are incapable of wrapping your head around sex not being an inherently lesser act, or that it could have any meaning outside of “make babies”

                  its the same exact bullshit used to oppress people for literal centuries just with a fresh coat of paint expunged by the exact same type of people

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                    they simply dont exist

                    They mostly don’t no, they’re a tiny, tiny minority of consumerist society, but you especially attributing any current forms of sex negativity to puritanism is fallacious. Try talking about porn games in literally any country and see what happens.

                    “Damn, the puritans have infected China and Iran as well! Their reach has no bounds”

                    Edit: do not try to “out-woke” me, I played The Joy Of Sex on the Philips CD-i alone two nights ago. You cannot “sex-negative” me.

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            Until I turned on (very light) sexual content, I couldn’t see Brütal legend. I fucking love that game and steam hid it from me because it didn’t show even very light sexual content.

            That comes with the downside of being shown gooner content on game community pages and being advertised straight up hentai games. No in-between.

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            It’s funny, I’m ace and have every mature filter turned off yet don’t see this stuff that much. Not that I don’t see some random hentai games advertised but it is relatively minor when I go on steam.

            I guess I don’t browse through all the mods and it could be community specific.

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              Yeah idk it seems like any game with a large modding community ends up having a porn wing of creators, particularly if the art style is already anime-esque. I remember Darkest Dungeon being particularly egregious and has pages of big titty waifus

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                I have played Darkest dungeon but I don’t think I modded it.

                I have modded Bethesda games and know of the mods for those games but I guess I choose to not browse the more adult mods.

                I also don’t have an issue with suggestive art or big titty waifus because I can choose not to engage with it or scroll past them. I also have mature filters turned off because sometimes I do want to engage with stuff made by queer creators which can be suggestive.

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              I tend to see them when scrolling below a game in my library, under the news, that’s where I generally see the community content.

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                I don’t tend to go on the community parts often. But when I have I don’t recall seeing lots of hentai either. I do see maybe one or two games store page thumbnails and thats it. It isn’t something I have issues with becauae those generally aren’t overly explicit.

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      Ridiculous doesn’t even begin to describe imo. Steam forums are a genuine cesspool of nazis. I had to stop myself from going there unless I’m looking for something specific. Steam forums emit as much Hitler particles as 4chan.