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deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 18 days ago

The Pentagon is going broke

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The Pentagon is going broke

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deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 18 days ago
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  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    18 days ago

    Here is my budget:

    War - $1,000,000,000,000

    Food - $0

    Please help my family is starving

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Cut education and safety nets more, what could go wrong

      You’ll definitely win if you do that

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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      18 days ago

      Cut back on the war

      • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        17 days ago

        No liberal. More war money. /j

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    maybe the pentagon should get a job and stop expecting handouts.

    • znonymous [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      Quit buying avocado toast and Starbucks if it ever wants to afford a down payment on a mortgage.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Help! The money printer is out of ink and we already stole all the money we’ve printed so we can’t buy any more! porky-point

  • curmudgeonthefrog [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    did-someone did someone get addicted to being the global monopoly on violence

  • blunder [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Eight failed audits in a row btw

    • MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      What percentage of the misplaced money is contractors skimming the till and what percentage is projects that don’t officially exist and won’t be acknowledged for 50 years?

      • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        I’d bet the grift is bigger than the black budget stuff

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Imagine the grift on the black budget stuff!

      • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Conspiracy theory: “The black budget” is a lie invented to cover up grift and corruption by making it look cool

  • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    18 days ago

    If I had a trillion dollars I wouldn’t run out of money but I guess I’m just built different

  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    18 days ago

    has anyone checked elon’s pockets

    • MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      You guys all know he’s not liquid like that! (translation: money is fake and he doesn’t actually have a trillion of anything)

      • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        I don’t know that I buy it, we better turn him upside and shake him to see what comes out.

        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          I propose using a juicer instead, just to be sure

          • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Bring forth the human-sized juicero! We shall squeeze the money out of him!

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        He probably has a trillion red blood cells

        • MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I thought he drained all his blood

          • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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            17 days ago

            Vampire

      • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Schrödinger’s oligarch: He is both broke and has more money than God at the same time.

        • MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          To his baby mommas he’s broke. To his investors he’s God.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    17 days ago

    defund the police means this, too

    • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      They do like playing “World Police”

      • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        acab-3

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Two options, reduce the quality of lives for americans further or contract the reach of the empire by closing bases and reducing water usage.

    Water usage is 30-40% of US military costs.

    Reducing the quality of lives for americans is a temporary bandaid, water costs are going to continue to increase so they will need to either keep doing that over and over until something in the population snaps or they will have to contract the empire. They have no other choice.

    When the British empire faced the same problem, it contracted its reach with cost reductions and closure of non-essential bases. I believe the US empire will do the same.

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      Water usage is 30-40% of US military costs.

      Water would be a fraction of “operational and maintenance costs” which at least in 2019 figured as 40% of the total DoD budget[1], so 40% of that would be 16% of the overall DoD budget. I tried corroborating the 30-40% figure for water, but I’m not coming up with anything concrete. I’m thinking that it is situational, and possibly outdated information from when the US was still in Afghanistan. A lot of the cost comes from not only transport, but security for the transport, which naturally is much higher in an active combat zone compared with a base in a friendly country.

      Side note, I had a good laugh learning about “Marine Corps Energy Assessment Team (MEAT)”[2] while googling this. Only in Burgerland


      1. 1. Wikipedia ↩︎

      2. 2. CNAS ↩︎

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        I tried corroborating the 30-40% figure for water

        It’s on page 27 of this doc: https://climateandsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/implications-of-climate-change-for-us-army_army-war-college_2019.pdf

        Researchers at Ft. Lee, VA, with the Combined Arms Support Command (CASCOM), in the Petroleum and Water Department, believe water generation is one of the leading fields for material approaches in the Capability Needs Assessment Process. The objective is to develop technologies enabling a logistics transformation in the area of water sustainment by reducing the water distribution and storage load. Without technology advances, water remains 30%-40% of the force sustainment requirement.

        This covers all military operations abroad. So basically 30-40% of everything in the empire outside the US’ borders.

        This was the US military’s own assessment of the upcoming problem in 2019. That problem is now beginning to take shape. This report itself frames it as a problem they either need new technology for to solve, or it says the military itself will collapse. Now you and me both know they’re never going to let “collapse” happen, so the obvious outcome is that they’re going to have to shrink their operations, it is the only option they will have.

        • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          That’s an incredible statistic. Then taking my 16% estimate from above, and considering DoD is about 14% of total federal budget, then about 2% of every taxpayer dollar is spent on shipping Aquafina to chuds in the desert, if my math is right. (Probably not? Since this is budget, not revenue (shrug))

          More nominative determinism: the source within your source is a man by the name of “Burden”:

          1. Burden, Jr., Charles E. Team Leader for Petroleum, Water and Material Handling Equipment, Combined Arms Support Command. Telephone interview by author, April 10, 2018.
          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            That’s an incredible statistic.

            Yeah it’s basically what fuels my constant belief that the US military is operating on borrowed time. They can’t stop these events happening, everything in this report is entirely outside of their control. The only solutions are magic technology that doesn’t exist, more money (from where without causing domestic problems?), or contraction. Both of the real solutions will end the US and the one that causes domestic problems is only a temporary delay to a problem that will continue to grow.

            They have no options. It’s an extremely good situation and you can bet China’s policy of sitting and waiting is built around it. They can only get weaker. Consider also the implications of this for revolutions that climate change is going to cause - the ability to project power to influence those revolutions will also be much weaker.

          • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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            Anti-imperialist praxis is swapping their drinking water our for Dasani(stolen of course to comply with BDS)

      • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        60%[1] of the DoD budget is staff and the staff are composed of 50-60% water [2] ergo ~30% of DoD budget is water.


        1. made-it-the-fuck-up ↩︎

        2. Wikipedia ↩︎

  • deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    Maybe they should try eating cereal for dinner?

  • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Odds are this is just a ploy to get even more money.

    • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      Please we promise we need more money for this new weapon please we need it to fight China Russia oooo scary right your scared right please be scared give us money so you won’t be scared anymore

  • microfiche [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Good

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    the pentagon is embezzling money*

    • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
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      “Pallets of cash” went missing in Iraq 2.0.

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        “missing”

        • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
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          I remember a soldier writing about how they had to get rid of it and were just handing it out to the masses, no receipts, no record. I always wondered how many US military personnel and Bechtel types were among the masses.

  • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Go woke

    Go broke

  • agentant [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    No way, the place that’s given unlimited money while never passing an audit and that obviously just embezzles comical quantities of money is out of money??? /s

    The DoD is just how the US fulfills it’s two favorite things: Murdering children and stealing.

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