Yeah, the community is not as left-wing as Hexbear, no shti, it’s le Reddit dot com.
I find scraping a left-wing community for takes with single digit upvotes, and posting them for sneering and criticism from a distance to be somewhat distasteful. There is obviously no interest in using this as an educational opportunity (which that subreddit is prime for, among others) since there are no links are in the post.
I particularly find this post out of place on Hexbear which is descended from very similar community where many of us would have posted similar takes 6+ years ago before we developed our analysis further.
I find scraping a left-wing community for takes with single digit upvotes, and posting them for sneering and criticism from a distance to be somewhat distasteful.
Every time I’m reading one of these posts I remind myself there’s a very good chance a child made the silly comment, then I move on.
ik it’s slop but 3 point Reddit comments are low hanging fruit even for hereYou’re right, the sneering is reactionary. Thank you for helping me self-crit, comrade.
If it is fashy or committed support to the establishment that’s one thing, if there is motion toward our direction we should be getting in there and telling them what’s what is all I’m saying, even if we roll our eyes on the way in.
Juche gang was banned
Getting banned for agitprop is a skill issue
Getting banned for agitprop is a win condition
More of a mod and forum culture issue
I’d be willing to look past his military service if he was running on a message of that service lead him to realize the American military machine is a force for ill and that he’ll fight to reign it in. But he hasn’t, it’s just been “greatest military in the world, we just need to get the right people running it” milquetoast critique.
And quite frankly, this instinct by baby leftists to dick ride any slightly left of center candidate that gains some traction reeks of desperation. I don’t care what the context is, having a fascist tattoo is just plain bad optics, especially when anti-fascism is a core reason presented for why politics needs to shift left.
yeah if Chelsea wanted to run for something we’d be mostly fine with it but this nazi piece of shit reupped with a different branch, was a blackwater merc because he didn’t do enough warcrimes in the regular service, and got a state department job.
any two of those things should be more than disqualifying and he has 5+ deep stains.
Tbf I am desperate. If we can’t vote our way into some treats for the working class it’s going to be socialism or barbarism and that path fucking sucks.
that’s how they get ya. after you beg and plead for a little treat, they still go and implement austerity measures and “make hard choices” to do more genocide. you did your part, of course, you voted.
It’s going to be socialism, comrade. 💚
It will be but it’s going to hurt a lot getting there
It probably will, but ir’s a worthy cause.
Eventually it will be, I agree. But there can be an immense amount of the barbarism for an indeterminate amount of time before we get to the socialism.
Yes, we may never see it. We might be martyrs for the new world but that world will come. Believe in yourself and believe in the people around you. 💚
Why would they even let you have the treats? What are you going to do them if you don’t get them?
Why do you think I hope they give them
A redacted to a redacted.
Even if the not being involved in torture part is true (we can just assume that, surely
), he bragged about finding a loophole in orders against using artillery (I believe) in a populated city so he could keep blasting. I’m pretty strongly inclined to call that a warcrime if even the US military found it inhumane. Also, the whole invasion was a crime, so these are 100% Clean Wehrmacht arguments . . .Iirc the artillery thing was using rifle grenades as improvised mortars after they received orders to halt use of mortars due to excessive civilian casualties. Like, yeah, we can get past someone who served a tour IF they understand what that means and are appropriately repentant, people quite rightly point out that veterans can be a very important revolutionary group, but this man absolutely thirsted for civilian blood. I really don’t think there is any redemption for him without serious rehabilitation and reeducation. He is a monster and in a civilised society, he would absolutely be made to reckon with that, not be allowed to enjoy immense privilege and run for public office.
Also he wasn’t involved in the torture because he served there after it was publicly known and allegedly stopped which is fucking worse.
Iirc, Platner’s unit was ordered to stop using mortars in populated areas so instead they used automatic grenade launchers like mortars, rapidly firing multiple grenades in high arcs over the city to try and hit their target.
Was Abu Graib a concentration camp? I thought of it like a war crimes prison, like a Unit 731 without the pretense of science. But as much as you concentrate people you don’t like, I feel like the purpose wasn’t to separate out a certain type of person as much as it was to torture people who resisted. But I’m asking because if you assume you make an ass out of u and me
And on the subject of being too famous to do crimes - Guantanamo?
Platner deserves to be grilled
If only I had a link to the thread these came from.
You’re welcome or I’m sorry.
Dear goodness!
This comment hits with or without context.
they really do believe in this and have used this to argue against me when I had the sources to back up not picking either side
Would I say they’re incorrect? No its pretty accurate
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I want someone who is going to vote like an actual leftist and his platform indicates he is going to do that
Like what. What “actual leftist” thing is he going to do, alongside the extremely NOT left commitment to increasing military spending and generally enticing more people to join up? Healthcare? Which is only implemented to mollify the masses and make socialists less enticing? People really don’t know what it means to be on the left, they are convinced that a liberal welfare state is socialism. Very frustrating. I think it’s largely a symptom of capitalist realism.
he was early (for politicians) to call it genocide i guess.
At the end of the day, it was between him, a centrist shitlib and the AIPAC candidate. I agree he is at best a nazi sympathizing war crimes enjoyer, but apparently that’s the best candidates Maine could scrape together.
The united front stuff really loses its legitimacy when the guy they want me to unite behind was a Nazi tattood murderer for the empire until like last week.
These were heavily downvoted when I last looked, or at least the first one was
These people have unlimited time to find the nuance between horrible and horrendous, doing the math to know which is ‘objectively’ worse for days at a time, but if they so much as smell a leftist, their brain shits out just the word Tankie.
Why do y’all post about pecker every day
It’s the slop community and he’s a slop merchant.
🎶 sling us some slop you’re the sloperman 🎶
Im not really sure how it goes
But it’s sloppy suet
And I hogged it complete
When I wrote a younger man’s posts
blackexcellence
When you read Barack Obama instead of Fred Hampton.
That’s it, in a nutshell.
Edit: bad take on my part
