I’m amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn’t have a suspect, and got reported on.
We can rule out a Ukrainian assassination attempt. They have a pretty good track record of success.
We’ll know if it’s a false flag if Putin immediately freaks out and increases his personal security or suddenly relocates to one of his bitch bunkers.
They have a pretty good track record of success.
I mean, it wouldn’t do to advertise failed attempts. And honestly, even if this was a failed Ukrainian assassination attempt, the fact that they legit blew putin’s limo up is kind of huge.
Honestly I though putin already spent 90% of his time in a bitch bunker. Ukraine has already demonstrated the capability of striking Moscow and beyond, long ago, several times over.
Why would he need a reason though? Couldn’t he just do that at any time?
it’s easier if there’s plausible deniability.
He absolutely could
“I’m not a fan of his politics or anything, but there’s no excuse for attacking other people’s property.” - US conservative “opinion”
Sounds more like a centrist to me.
That’s the Mantra of a liberal I’ve ever heard one
once again, i am at odds with lemmy’s definition of “liberal”.
No that’s the actual definition of the word liberal. We got 300 plus years of liberal history to point to. It’s always the same song and dance. Nothing matters more than private property and Law and Order to a liberal. Everything else will be thrown away in favor of those two things. Every. Single. Time.
Hell it’s the original sin of our nation. The great liberal thinkers of the American Revolution. Jefferson and Madison and all the rest. What happened when it came time to fulfill their ideals? What happened when it came time to treat all men equal? Oh we can’t have that if we free the slaves we would be upsetting the order of things and depriving men of their private property. Once you understand that complete and utter Ironclad rule of liberal ideology you’ll understand how the last 300 plus years of human history have played out.
Better luck next time.
Man, when (when, not if) Putin dies eastern Europe is going to have a weeeeird power vacuum
It would have been great if it was with Putin inside.
Damn you’d be banned on Reddit for saying that!
Only if I’d wish if Musk would be in it right? Since it’s a limo, it would have been great if Putin, Trump, Vance and Musk would be in it.
Just put Putin, Trump, Vance and Musk in a Cybertruck, it will explode on its own probably
Honestly, I don’t care how dude. As long as they are removed from society ASAP.
Let’s rebuild the Titan sub and restart important exploration trips to the Titanic! That’s a great idea for the uber rich! We all want to know what happened to the Titanic in great details. I have a super Nintendo knockoff controller they can use this time around. Also make it out of aluminum and do high pressure oxygen tests with the crew inside. I hear those are fun events.
Too true. I was just banned on Reddit for liking too many pro-Luigi posts
Next stop: banning folks just for looking/spending too much time on these posts.
Saying stuff not even as direct as that is what got me permanently banned and the reason that I’m here now
Reddit really chose to side with evil
You’d get thrown out of a window in Russia for saying that
No one has been thrown out a window in Russia, what a baseless accusation about very tragic suicides. Now please, shoot yourself in the back of the head three times and then zip yourself into a duffel bag.
The headline is mistaken. I checked out an article with photos from the scene.
The limousine was authentic. The place was nice, a few blocks from the FSB headquarters.
But there was no “tremendous explosion” - the car just burnt. Every house had its windows intact, the car itself had its windows intact while burning, etc.
Explanations: technical malfunction, passer-by with fire cubes and a lighter.
What’s a fire cube? I’m guessing you’re not referring to the Amazon Fire cube…
I probably don’t know the correct term in English. It’s a product for starting a fire in a wood-fired stove or campfire. A rectanglular block of wood fiber soaked in oil.
Maybe something like the solid fuel cubes used for camping. https://www.rei.com/product/653344/esbit-solid-fuel-tablets
Ew what is that
Now they’re getting it - blow up putin - end of war and Ukraine prevails. Also, trump and his entire criminal organization no longer have the backing and deviousness of putin and fail. America wins. The world wins.
Let’s not miss next time, okay?
Blowing up Putin would be nice but it’s not a guarantee the war would end. It would lead to a power struggle in the Kremlin, no doubt, but there are loads of hawks in that regime and many are much more extreme than even Putin.
Of course, a more extreme war hawk might end up benefitting Ukraine by hastening the collapse of Russia. Or it might lead to nuclear war. It’s really hard to predict exactly what will happen.
This sounds like classic Democrat excuse for inaction.
Those Ukrainian Democrats are known for inaction actually
Of course, considering he’s a paranoid former KGB agent who won’t even sit at a normal table with his closest advisors, it would not exactly be trivial to drop him.
Eh. Regardless of how careful he is, he’s still just a man. If it’s a coup from within the security he has means nothing, and they will also know where he is at a given time.
Remember what happened to Indira Ghandi.
Tesla makes limos now?
This is gold, Jerry. GOLD!
My first thought. Maybe the Russian equivalent: president’s billionaire buddy has a Russian luxury car factory propped up by government money, riddled with problems.
Captured image from the video shows that the hood of the engine compartment had been warped. This means there had been an explosion :
full video :
. here :
https://www.the-sun.com/news/13897148/putin-limo-exploded-fire-paranoid/If he wasn’t in it then I don’t care
could’ve been a message more than an attack
“We’ve been trying to contact you about your car’s extended warranty”
great. so, fucking nothing?
“The attack on my life has left me scarred” 🤣
First of all, this does not look like an assassination attempt. The engine caught fire. A Russian-made limousine. Might be (politically motivated) vandalism, might be “a Tesla”.
There’s no freedom of speech or poltical expression in Russia anymore. The state controls the media and the media control the narrative. This is the totalitarian approach. The disadvantage for Putin/Kreml is that they really don’t know anymore how deep the resentment against them goes. And neither do we.
Of course the explanation will be that Ukrainian sympathisers did it, but I think it’s easy to see that a Russian does not even have to be a Ukrainian sympathiser to want Putin dead.
There’s no freedom of speech or poltical expression in Russia anymore. The state controls the media and the media control the narrative.
Ah so just like the US then
Who ever downvoted you needs to visit the whitehouse.gov and other government sites and social media accounts. They are like North Korean level propaganda now.
They do.
But we can also say ‘Fuck the orange fatass!!!’ without being defenestrated.
If you’re an American born white person, yes.
If you’re an immigrant, even a legal one, all bets are off. If you’re American born but you look like you maybe could be an immigrant, you’re in danger too.
I am brown, but american-born.
I wasn’t safe growing up in the south, I was a Muslim terrorist, and this was before 9/11. They’ve progressed barely at all since the civil war.
This is just the vile filth of the south spreading outwards to the coasts.
I thought I’d escaped, but the filth followed me, fortunately I managed to escape again to Europe.
But I’m sure the vile filth of the south will follow me again.
So I’ve decided to parabellum.
What kind of low rent dictator has to park on the street?
Don’t get my hopes up
Is it … the … beginning?
I thought the same when the funny hot dog man turned war-criminal marched a surprising distance into Russia.
Nothing ever happens. :(
The usual thing happened…and then things got worse. Russian history 101 and NOW American history 101.
It was r/NonCredibleDefense’s finest hour. A golden age. The promised Thunder Run to Moscow
Nothing good you mean
There’s a high chance that the car is just shit… would be nice if it was an actual assassination attempt but honestly who knows.
It’s an Aurus, a Russian luxury brand. Knowing Russian automotive engineering, I’m sure the only part that works properly is the engine, which was developed with help from Porsche.
Finger crossed
