!conservative@lemmy.world because there is no clickable link here.
You’re playing with fire, this is how thedonald started. It was all a joke until it wasn’t. Then it became a cesspit.
It’s also how flat earthers started. 4chan started satirically memeing about flat earth. Then idiots saw it, missed the satire, and picked it up as a serious thing. At that point, 4chan went “this is funnier than any satire we could make” and stood back to watch the crazies launch rockets into the upper atmosphere.
I think that 4chan started a lot of this apocalypse that way.
4chan was sold in 2015 and that’s when it took a hard right turn.
“Shoop da woop” was a popular 4chan meme dating to at least 2006. Also the whole “newfag”, “oldfag” etc thing has been going on since forever.
Are those supposed to be far right slogans or something? This was normal stuff at the time.
My dad used to be on 4Chan all the time in the 2000s, he told me being called a fag was considered a form of endearment, not an insult. I’ve never heard newfag or oldfag be used by the far right, they typically go for actual insults instead.
There was definately a tone shift when the site was bought. People were usually mocked if they were actually right wing over there.
I would actually want to see conservatives (who doesn’t currently support trump) come and debate stuff.
I don’t agree with them, but I want to see what their perspective is.
Having a conservative community on a non-corporate site would help prevent the most extreme opinions of the right-wing and minimize russian propaganda (because we have manual applications). Give them a space here, allows them to be exposed to opposing views, preventing far-right extremism.
(Obviously, the trumpers are too far gone and we shouldn’t platform them. Racism, sexism and stuff like that should Never be allowed)
Maybe a c/DebateConservatives type of thing?
I agree, but most Lemmings seem to be completely intolerant of right of center views. I’ve never seen any content in that community that’s right of center without being downvoted into oblivion.
If Lemmings just don’t want other views here, that’s fine, it just kind of sucks when all I get is an echo chamber.
Show me a right of center viewpoint that isn’t hateful or in bad faith and I won’t downvote it.
Fascists feeling unwelcome is exactly how things should be.
Communists feeling unwelcome is exactly how things should be too.
Communists aren’t destroying the US government as of now. Unless you consider the Russian assets on the right as communists?
Communists have killed millions. So unless you consider nazis okay, since they aren’t destroying the US government as of now, then they deserve the same treatment.
Communism is not a good economic model, but “communism has killed millions” is such a bad faith argument. First off, Capitalism has killed BILLIONS (see the automobile industry and military industrial complex) but I have yet to see anyone talk about this. I also don’t see you putting capitalist on the same level as Nazis
At a certain point, we have to be real about what’s going on. People acting in bad faith, no matter their affiliation, need to be outcast. Trying to tow some imaginary line is a complete waste of time
It is not “a bad faith argument”, it’s the truth. Capitalism has been “in force” since ancient times. Where there is money and private ownership, there is capitalism. And yeah, communism has killed more people than nazis ever did, not that it is a contest. The reality is people who have never had anything to do with communism romanticize it as some great solution that solves every problem, when in reality it results in murderous regimes that oppress their people, their neighbors and everyone else there is to oppress.
That’s not how this works… you just go to a different instance like wtf?
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It was entirely abandoned, and that was just the latest set of mods. From what I understand, the .world version has been through three sets of mods.
Most serious conservatives around here just want to spread hate and misinformation anyways, should have seen what happened to the .ee version mods, removed by the instance admins because they were doing shit like quickly resolving reports so the admins didn’t see them to allow crap like Nazi celebratory posts to stay up.
