Hexbears will accuse each other of being liberals if they dare vote but also lament anti-trans voter initiatives passing.
The Dem on my ballot was Zionazi freak Josh Gottheimer so I’m afraid I can’t join this party.
How do the voters perceive socialism anyway? Do they think it’s the nordic model which is just capitalism with some treats? Do they think socialism is when slightly cheaper groceries and gas or what?
“I’m a socialist” in the States basically just means “I don’t think the homeless should be liquified and fed to beef cows without seeing an attorney first.”
as an american i can only say that even achieving this level of class consciousness is a remarkable achievement for the average burger
Never forget the Indiana farmer’s letter to fdr
Do you consider yourself a democratic socialist?
what’s my political ideology if I want to kill the boer and establish international joint dictatorship of the proletariat
Blue Dog Democrat
Did some math. 55% of people voted blue in this exit poll, so:
- 53% of blue voters said they approved of socialism (0.32*0.92/0.55)
- 24% of blue voters disapproved of socialism (0.54*0.25/0.55)
- 30% of blue voters identified as demsoc (0.17*0.97/0.55)
- 44% of blue voters identified as liberal (0.25*0.96/0.55)
- 47% of blue voters identified as moderate (0.41*0.63/0.55)
The 2% democratic socialists who voted republican
gotta be statistical fuckery lmao
Yeah the real answer is probably ppl trolling lol
It’s a known thing in surveys that 2-5% of people will just… pick an option at random. It’s very hard to measure whether that’s deliberate defiance or a mistake.
Voting against transphobic Dems maybe?
Voting against transphobes by voting for the transphobia party
If you want to prevent a situation like in the UK, where every major party hates you, then discouraging shitlibs from getting more brazen with their transphobia by making them lose the election does make a lot of sense. I can easily see some trans people voting red out of desperation
The correct course of action here is to not vote for anyone. Voting for Republicans is never the right choice. They’re even more transphobic.
That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard and you should be put in prison if you vote for Republicans
Or patsocs or nazbols
Are there people on hexbear who actually vote Republican?
I would vote for the IRA
Savvy politicians will probably figure this out and learn to wrap socialist language in the mandatory pro-American rhetoric. Are there any historical examples of an explicitly nationalist brand of socialism being tried?
Americans define socialism as some weird capitalist abundance utopia with pre-Reagan tax rates providing welfare to those in need.
Or maybe everyone is based and they’re all just hiding their power levels
Isnt the American concept of socialism basically the neoliberal systems in all of Europe?
So like a crumb of healthcare and worker protections that slowly gets eroded away and lost
Bernie called himself a demsoc in mid 2010s when he is barely a succdem and now radlibs think socialism is when safety nets
Words don’t mean anything
what?!?!? but i was told bernie was normalizing socialism
yes but their ignorance is an open door for us
Yeah lol. American “socialists” are about as left-wing as Louis Farrakhan.
with worse views on israel
Does wanting to
both Republicans and Democrats make me a “moderate” ?Cause I consider that to be a moderate political opinion
There are points you like for both sides.
Well, US is … a ’special’ child. The Dems are generously speaking 0.0001% socialists, but only in words, and only relative to reps. Relative to the ‘true meaning’ of socialism, or average active socialism on the globe, they end up as batshit insane right wingers - all of them… In fact, US don’t have a ‘left’ or Democracy, only a fascist oligarchy that pays for and control information, sentiments and politicians of both groups, so Dems are kind of the oligarchs ‘anger management’ project of the US population. I think it’s called ‘controlled opposition’. Its a continuously ongoing good cop/bad cop circus show that never really changes anything. It kind of sucks to be a real socialist if the managed Dems are the only choice, and its not even a real choice.
Nothing will change before you guys have a true revolution - Frenchy style, chop chop…
“Controlled opposition” for the corporate dems, yes. There are a few who serve as a somewhat left of center pressure relief valve, such as Bernie Sanders. Here’s hoping they can leverage this momentum to begin taking over the party and force out the corrupt leadership, then prioritize campaign finance and tax reforms to curtail the power of the oligarchs. Otherwise I agree, blood in the streets is likely the only way out.
It’s a little early to say, but I think this has more to do with “anti-communist week” and trying to delegitimize democrat electoral victories by saying “see? they didn’t even win by any real votes” than an actual overwhelming representation of self-described socialists at polling stations.
