do not get addicted to showering every day, it will take hold of you and that water could have been used for data centers
As a naturally sweaty person, the health benefit of daily showering is that my spouse doesn’t make me sleep outside in a makeshift nest.
nest
Uh, this user is a bird!
Could also be a gorilla, they sleep in nests?
Still remember the first time I found out there were people who didn’t wash regularly
I was an effete boy of 8, one who washed twice a day and when I told my classmates that, I was told that I was “gay” for liking to be clean
i bet you washed your hands too. like some kind of weirdo who doesn’t follow RFK’s Podcast where we learn that regular sanitation and hygiene were invented by Big Shower.
It’s only gay if you wash your butthole.
showering is virtue signalling
Showering is bourgeois
So is shaving
This whole line of argument takes it as a given that no one should be cleaner than medically necessary. Bathe you dirty animals! Don’t you like to feel clean? Isn’t the grime itchy? Much of modernity sucks shit actually but modern sanitation and hygiene are genuine triumphs over the conditions of the past! Use them!
We need that water for the datacenters
It isn’t performative if there is a psychological benefit. Which you know, there definitely is.
Gonna show my ass on this one but I shower once a week, it’s bad I know, it doesn’t help that the hot water is busted in the house when I turn it on the pressure is low in my place.
I was waiting for someone to volunteer how little they shower. I know y’all nasty.
I know I will do better. I do wear deodorant.
if i had no hot water and low pressure id be the same way and probably worse. used to shower every day but its gotten harder for me to do so, and thats with me having creature comforts
I have a similar cadence, usually about a week. Reducing from daily showering (or multiple a day when I biked to work) has been a game changer for my hair and skin tbh.
I generally just shower when its needed vs a specific cadence. That could mean daily showers in the summer during heat waves but generally once a week works really well for me.
You shouldn’t wash your hair every time you shower anyway. I shower 2-3 times per week but only wash my hair once per week. Any more and it gets too dry and lifeless. I just rinse it well on days I don’t wash it.
I noticed the exact same thing with my skin.
Same.
I really do think our skin microbiome (it’s not just in our gut!) tends to find a good balance if given the chance to do so. People who shower every day or more have a skin biome that is used to getting purged on the regular and will start getting out of control as soon that rhythm is broken, which makes the person stink. Then that person thinks that’s just a straight fact “if people don’t shower often, they stink!” But as usual, it’s more complicated than that.
@SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net, don’t let anyone tell you you’re “nasty” for not showering more often, you just have a healthier skin microbiome than they do.
Thanks, that does make me feel a bit better!
(Only replace the floating hearts with stinky waves. j/k ;)
lol but you’re right tho I do not smell most of the time, there’s days I do have bo from my pits so I lather up in deodorant. Since I’m home and not doing anything taxing on my body, it’s kind of a waste to hop in the shower for nothing. Now granted if I need to be out in public the next day I usually do.
Literally same. It takes at least several days for me to start becoming a little odiferous, even if I’ve been doing some light physical work. But everyone has some odor to them, as they should, since it is of course natural and healthy. Hell, it is even one of the things that has attracted people to each other throughout the ages. As has been said, capitalism latched onto that as it does everything else that makes us human, and told us we had to buy products to attract people with scent, and then buy products just to keep from offending people by our scent!
I’m not around people much anymore I admit, so it usually doesn’t matter either way, (but even when I did live with a partner and only showered 1-2 x / week, I was never told I needed to take one). But when I do have to go out like to run errands in town, that is when I make sure I’m cleaned up, meaning a shower beforehand.
yes in the summer I do shower more often due to the heat, but in the colder months it’s about once a week. I guess my skin is pretty soft? What little hair I have left on my head is soft too, I guess.
If someone doesn’t work a physical job I don’t think they need to shower every day. Then beyond that some people don’t sweat or stink as much. It’s fine
i’ve found every 2 days for me unless i do something to get sweaty/dirty or have an event or something
every day tends to mess with my skin
I cover my skin in fibreglass as my day job so i shower every day and on the weekend I’ll only do a freshening up if i need it
How tf you smelling like garbage after 24 hours? If you got sweaty that’s one thing but one day doesn’t turn ya sedentary ass into actual trash
Depends on the person, and the season. In the winter I can go a few days without showering before I start stinking, but that’s a dicier proposition in the summer.
I run hotter than most people and also work in a warehouse so I’m pretty much always at least a little sweaty any time outside of later autumn or winter. If I don’t shower regularly I smell like ass.
It’s entirely dependent on the person. Me and my brother will stink strongly of onions after 1 day regardless of activity we just produce moisture and grease at a ridiculous rate, I think this is due to the fact we sweat generally more like if I do a workout I’m drenched afterwards. I have to shower every day my stink is so bad I can smell it on myself and it sometimes accrues in the same day depending on how much activity I get. My brother literally leave stink trails after not showering for 48 hours.
My bf in the other hand can shower once every moon phase and produces basically no odour ever. Pretty certain it’s genetic there is no general rule for it.
There’s not much point stating your own personal experience like it’s universal. Like congrats you’re not afflicted with stinking like shit and having near unlimited head grease?
My fellow stinky.
I shower 2-3 times a day. For 2 mins each
2 min?? do you have alopecia?
Ah, its more like 5 mins the session I wash my hair. I do it 3 times a week.
I also just like…dont smell much when I sweat. I havent worn deodorant of any kind since I was like 15 and decided I was too punk. It’s not a combination of nose blindness and people being polite, ive worked in kitchens since Bush was in office, a hot place full of rude assholes usually. Other people got told they stink, I never did. I think it depends on what you’re sweatin’ BO is produced by bacteria chomping on your sweat, its bacteria poop. A chemistry major i was dating wanted to get get a bacterial sample to produce my stank. I kinda smell like when spring rolls are frying and weed.
Shower schedule struggle session
Bathing: Never. Done, sesh over
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Including tongue baths?
Cleaning yourself is fine. The problem is the torture, unless you’re a masochist.
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animal cruelty
Is washing cats bad for them?
they don’t like it
This is so embarrassing. Of all the things to fight about
Nothing beats showering in the evening and then lying in a clean bed fully naked, if I go to sleep unshowered it feels kinda yucky.
That’s one thing I don’t do, sleep naked, the ONLY times I do is the dog days of summer where it’s like 80 F at night and I have the fan on me. Otherwise it’s undies and a nice comfy t-shirt for me.
Humans have odors and stigmatizing them is doing the work of capitalism.
Nah, I disagree. Most human cultures have practiced regular or semi-regular bathing , to different extents, but this whole idea that we just naturally smell fine in our “state of nature” is largely BS. The whole idea that medieval people only bathed once a year is misinfo, most large medieval towns had bathhouses and we have illustrations of people bathing in rivers and ponds from that period. Even our paleolithic ancestors probably dipped themselves in rivers after a hot day so they don’t stink up the longhouse.
Well, it seems obvious to me that the point is not “never showering”, but that the human body is likely not properly evolved to shower every single day, especially with soap + shampoo + deodorant. There is an arguable extent of natural body odour which should be normalized, and people likely, for health reasons, shouldn’t be applying soap and germicides on their armpits daily as we (myself included) do.
please do not normalize BO
Sure, let’s keep normalizing painful rashes instead like the one I’m having for the past 2 months already as a consequence of socially requiring to apply soap and deodorant daily. Continue stigmatizing normal body function. All socialists should also continue to stigmatize those who don’t perform such wonderful and healthy traditions as teeth whitening proceduresb or laser body hair removal. /s
It’s maddening hearing self-reported socialists/anarchists propagating “continue stigmatizing normal bodily functions!”
unlike the teeth whitening or the body hair, odors are inherently unpleasant to be around. i’m sorry you have to deal with that particular problem. maybe there’s a sensible middle ground to be reached here?
Odors aren’t inherently unpleasant to be around, and you’re being incredibly uncritical by believing that. Humans routinely condition ourselves into not just accepting but loving pungent smells like funky cheese, vinegar in our salad, durian, and we even condition ourselves to associate chemical lung-burning smells such as bleach or chlorine with cleanliness and start to like their smell.
If you can’t critically examine smells and the social conditioning around them, I don’t have anything else to say to you. I just hope one day you can feel the love I feel for my girlfriend when I smell her faint scent in the morning after waking up before she showers.
i get into internet arguments about showering specifically so i can critically examine my own opinions. but you bring up durian as an example. you would expect that if it were as routine as you say, the people most exposed to it would be happy to marinate in durian smells. i can’t find a single airline anywhere in the world that will allow you to eat durian during the flight. yes, there are sociopolitical implications, but unsealed durians are prohibited on singaporean transit. how, then, could it be as simple as “routine conditioning”?
I feel you. The soap I use or the deodorant I use (I switched both recently), caused the skin to peel under my armpits. It happened once before when I had aluminum-based deodorant, this time I’m not too sure what the problem is but ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
I feel terrible if I don’t shower though, if I go even a day without showering I feel disgusted with myself
Well. Except for that period when Europeans believed bathing let “bad airs” into your skin and made you sick.
Yes, and there’s some historical evidence that it actually made people MORE sick.
Jewish and Muslim communities weren’t nearly hit as hard by the Black Death than Christian ones, and it’s theorized it’s because Judaism and Islam requires regular ritual bathing. Turns out it’s important to wash your penis.
Europeans were also well known for smelling like shit. There’s stories about people lighting incense whenever Europeans are around, and the Europeans thought it was some kind of ritual, but actually they were just chasing away their stank.
Yes they were. Eurocentric histories just dont focus on how the black death affected the middle east. It was apocalyptic in north Africa. Centuries old infrastructure could no longer be maintained causing ecological change and desertification that still scar the landscape to this day.
What an absolutely reactionary and uninformed take. Like, showering everyday probably doesn’t have a direct health benefit, and in fact it is damaging to your hair to shampoo it every day, but perfumes, unguents, bathing habits, and general cleaniness, as well as a general public disagreement with strong body odors has been a thing since well before capitalism has been a thing.
There is a good goddamn reason that frankincense and myrrh were part of the royal gifts supposedly given to the infant Jesus by the wise men. They were ritual perfumes, as good or different smells that have been associated with divinity forever. Unfortunately, the stigmatization of smell has much less to do with capitalism, and much more to do with enculturated practices that extend far deeper than capitalism. Capitalism absolutely takes advantage of that stigmatization, but it is not the cause of it, which means that socialism is simply the first step in addressing it, not a solution in of itself.
strong body odors
Note you acknowledge theres a spectrum of body odors.
Smell is the most stigmatized sense; where if its noticeable its considered bad. Go outside and you will see and hear many different things but smell? Realistically itll just be cars. So smelling anyone (outside of a few highly commodified fragrances) is experienced like when someone plays loud music from their phone in public.
This has absolutely nothing to do with my point, in the slightest and yet again it is absolutely horseshit.
For one, I don’t live in a city, so the most often disagreeable smell that I encounter regularly that is noticable is quite literally if I am downwind of manure.
And for two, people love it when there is a noticable smell of flowers, they love the smell of a bakery. I know some people who absolutely love the smell of rubber, leather, and grease, and others who it will make sick to their stomachs. Some people even love the smell of cigarettes, while others absolutely can’t stand it. The smell right before it rains, or fresh earth is absolutely wonderful and agreeable to most people. So it has absolutely nothing to do with if the smell is ‘noticable’ or not.
A smell is absolutely NOT disagreeable simply if it is noticable and stigmatized to people ‘outside of a few commodified fragrances’, these fragrances are commodified because they are already considered to be generally agreeable. It is enculturation heightened by commoditization. You are putting powers onto marketing and commoditization that they simply do not possess…
This has been known for a while. Showering daily is, if anything, kinda odd compared to most humans unless you actually get dirty.
You know, there is endemic COVID out there. You should put your outside clothes a in a plastic bag or wash them and then shower as soon as you come home from the outside. You plage rats.
are you being sarcastic? Covid is still a pandemic which makes me think you’re not being serious
It’s endemic, as is in some places malaria. This does not mean you should be less careful, it means you should be more careful, because endemic diseases, such as malaria, are some of the only forces that can exert selection pressure on us.
I sincerely and honestly take the precautions described above.
Endemic means it’s not going away.
COVID is an airborne respiratory virus, though? Unless something changed within the past 2 years that I do not know about, not much from masking and vaccines can help with it. It’s why it’s such a big deal to get that nasal vaccine breakthrough.
Vaccines and masks, sure. I think the thing that helps most, is not going to restaurants, there are a bunch of unmasked people there spiting in each other’s faces and food.
But I can’t get the vaccines where I live, so I have to take every precaution, and if my hair and clothes are covered in aerosols from outside, I better take measures.
Fair enough.
I apologize for assuming. There’s been a ton of infuriating discourse around this lesbian bar mask thing that my guard is wayyyy up right now.
Not at all I should thank you. I think Its always good to clarify, if someone read your response and that motivated them to take precautions, that is a small but helpful change. Nagging people about COVID is in everyone’s best interests.
I don’t think it can go from airborne to surface to airborne again
It can live in surfaces for 2-3 weeks if it’s in a dark place. You are also constantly touching your face and your clothing subconsciously, as well as sniffing, puting your nose on your arm when you sneeze, etc. why risk it. Cleaning your mouth on your shoulder, etc.
Showering was invented by Big Soap after they saw how Gillette got dudes to shave.
I bought a shavette fairly recently because my eye would twitch at how much those disposable razor heads cost, not to mention all the plastic bits.
Everyone here seems to believe body odour is universally a bad thing that’s objectively disgusting. Smells are mostly conditioning, Europeans will delight themselves smelling cheeses that would make Asian people puke, we add literal rotten sour grapes to every single salad we eat, and fuck, the smell of WET CARDBOARD induces hunger into people because we’re conditioned to associate it with pizza in a cardboard delivery box. My ex used to sniff my balls after sweaty days because she loved the smell and my current girlfriend finds it nice to smell my armpits in the morning, and I’ll have you know her pussy smells of heaven to me.
Normalizing body odour does not mean “well, unfortunately it’s a natural thing, so we should just shut up and deal with stinky people for the rest of history”, it means “once people get used to a certain degree of body odour on each other we won’t notice it and/or consider it a bad thing, and it would imply benefits for skincare for many”. Nobody is trying to implement a fucking shower ban, shower as much as you want, there is simply a diversity of people with a diversity of bodies who smell more, smell less, and have different skins which require different routines.
This take is objectively correct, and whoever disagrees because “ew” is a child who refuses to critically examine social conditioning on themselves.
My ex used to sniff my balls after sweaty days because she loved the smell and my current girlfriend finds it nice to smell my armpits in the morning, and I’ll have you know her pussy smells of heaven to me
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Does everyone here genuinely dislike the scent of their partners? I really don’t get it
I don’t think so, I just think the bluntness of your comment was pure gold.
I do in small amounts but I wouldn’t exactly want my partner to jump into bed with me after a week of no bathing. I have my limits.
there’s a difference between scent and stank
“Stank” is to “scent” what “full-scale invasion” is to “military action”
Haha. That was some incredible over sharing. I like sweaty pits too.
Speaking as a bathing defender in this thread, even I kinda enjoy the smell of BO sometimes with certain people. But that’s for more intimate moments, not a random guy I’m stuck on a crowded bus with.
Oh yeah for sure. It’s certain people’s stank that I’m here for.
Your wife smelling your balls is fine.
I don’t want to smell your balls.
Don’t make me tap the sign:
whoever disagrees because “ew” is a child who refuses to critically examine social conditioning on themselves.
I don’t want to listen to you play music out loud on your phone either.
It’s not ew, it’s annoying. It’s an outside imposition on my senses that I don’t want.
I gave you a well-reasoned comment regarding social conditioning of smells. Living in community implies a ton of impositions, such as being subjected to seeing how people choose to dress and cut their hair, which I hope you don’t see as annoying too. If the best response you have is “but I’ont wanna”, I don’t have much else to reply to you. Keep complaining about how ugly ripped jeans are or something.
Living in community implies a ton of impositions,
And one of those impositions is bathing! If we don’t regularly bathe, the community smells like unwashed buttholes and sweaty balls.
Some people would get used to it, but I wouldn’t, because I get overstimulated by being assailed by too many different sensorial experiences at the same time. It’s not even these specific smells that are bad, per se, I just prefer to smell nothing when I’m in public because it’s already stressful enough (although the factor of “this smell comes from a person” does make it more stressful). So, I happen to like this imposition. Getting rid of it would make it hard for me to be in crowds.
People wearing perfume also bother me, but society has decided those smells are okay, so I’m out of luck.
Cool, how about instead of maintaining a stigma around body odour, we understand different peoples’ needs and sensibilities? As much as you and others have a tendency towards overstimulation with smells, (which you can mitigate wearing a facemask), many others have different bodies and skins which smell more, smell less, and are more or less sensitive to different products designed to neutralize and contain smells.
I fully agree against the use of strongly scented perfumes in enclosed spaces, but you’re mixing it up with normal bodily functions.
Again, I’m not arguing for a shower ban. Big part of the reason why you’re sensitive in particular to body odour is social conditioning, and IG you hadn’t been conditioned against it you’d likely find it much more tolerable.
Fortunately for you, human bodies don’t naturally spontaneously play music out loud
I’ll have you know her pussy smells of heaven to me
what’s the pH compared to the general population though, does it enter the 99th percentile?
This take is objectively correct, and whoever disagrees because “ew” is a child who refuses to critically examine social conditioning on themselves.
ok, but also, ew.
what’s the pH compared to the general population though, does it enter the 99th percentile?
I haven’t eaten that many different puss, so I don’t have a statistically significant sample that would allow me to perform such judgement.
ok, but also, ew
Fair’nuff
That was a reference to some guy on twitter talking about the ph level of his wife’s vagina and sounding like a freakin alien. Some tech ghoul iirc.
Bryan Johnson, the guy who uses his son as a blood boy.
Fair’muff
