This person, a liberal from Finland, self-identifies as a tankie because he wants to murder Russians. Words officially mean nothing. English class is canceled.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/24908172

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    “You’re clearly not ready for that conversation.”

    They will loftly indicate that the time for debate is over etc. etc.

    Idk how he thinks Putin is the one nuclear sabre rattling when Trump literally threatens to nuke Iran every other month.

    Ah yes, who is more fascist, the country actually fighting it’s own bourgeois war, or the country paying and arming everyone else to die in their bourgeois wars? The degree of removal makes it even more sick and twisted, not less.

  • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Libs dilute socialist terminology to the point of meaninglessness, but I never thought I would see them do that to the word “Tankie” to the point that they start self-identifying as Tankies.

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    Look, I’m not an expert on Russia or Ukraine but I’m confused about the point that there is a genocide in Ukraine. Isn’t the part of Ukraine that is being destroyed in battle where all the ethnically Russians live? Who is being genocided? Russians?

    Do libs just think that every war includes a genocide to dilute the term so the Israeli’s have ammunition when people call them out on it?

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      In the liberal ideology, words are all empty signifiers that can be fit into two categories. “Bad” and “good”.

      Genocide is, to them, not the state sanctioned ethnic cleansing of targeted groups, but just another word for “bad”.

      The foundation of the liberal world view is to morally absolve yourself from benefiting from capitalism by publically signalling your moral purity, and condemning others for their perceived lack of morality through the “good” and “bad” categories.

      That’s why debating people online is pointless. Libs already have most of their material needs covered in the current system and any criticism can only boil down to personal taste in manners and fidelity to the system.

      Sorry for rambling, I’m drunk

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      There isn’t any “genocide” in Ukraine. This is a lib tendency to call all wars and war crimes as “genocide”. There is no proven extermination of Ukrainians in Ukraine

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      I think it’s probably a combination of not being aware that there are ethnic russians in ukraine or that the donbass is predominantly russian, lib brainworms about putin secretly trying to take over all of ukraine and exterminate ukrainian culture, and the sad reality of what fighting “to the last ukrainian” means

      Do libs just think that every war includes a genocide to dilute the term so the Israeli’s have ammunition when people call them out on it?

      Yeah probably

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      Libs have really stepped up their use of genocide to describe all conflicts after Israel began their genocide in earnest. Them watering the term down starting with the fake Holodomor stuff, and then the fake Xinjiang stuff, and this is a continuation and amplification of that. Ukraine’s national story it tells itself is that the Soviets and now Russia keeps doing a genocide against them (when in fact, all genocides against Ukraine [after the Mongols and Steppe Clans] have come from the West, not East, and Ukraine has been the far more genocidal entity since 1991).

      The libs know they can’t hide Israel’s disgusting actions, so they have coopted the public anti-genocide fervor in an attempt to redirect it towards state enemies instead of allies.

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      I just want to mention that the same user in another comment says that Netanyahu “is functionally small potatoes by comparison to the alternatives”

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    i’m just agape libs still refrain to “uyghurs” as if that’s just ancient genocide history despite knowing for the past 3 years what a genocide actually looks like.

    it’s so thoughtless and shameless but yknow they’re perfidious orientals, everything bad thing i hear about them must be true! any discussion of US flock cameras is like this too, endless “what are we, chinese?” despite the fact china never developed a flock-like system, or actually had social credit scores. all my grains for a lib capable of critical thinking

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    Damn they’re still going on about Hong Kong huh. Not even 1% of the brutality meted out by cops in the US but whatever I guess they’re evil for regaining sovereignty of a port stolen by the British at gunpoint.

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      the only people who died were killed by protestors (one hit an old man with a brick and one fell off a parking garage iirc)

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        Don’t forget the old man the protesters lit on fire. He survived though.

        The one who fell off the parking garage was hopping around on roofs with a bow and arrow, lmao. Fucking LARPers.

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    Outside of the content which is abhorrent in its own right, I hate how he goes about speaking on this topic:

    His choice not to fight

    He is not peaceful

    He isn’t able to stop from knowing

    As if President Xi is some emperor or god king reigning over China as opposed to the reality of being an elected politician alongside hundreds of others.

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        In this specific case I think he is using the right English to say something extremely idiotic and chauvinist.

        The world knows about […] Or at least those he isn’t able to stop from knowing.

        The idea is that all of us in China are completely brainwashed and in the dark to the reality of our country and the happenings within, and thus he and his white saviour friends are doing us a favour by parroting propaganda nonsense to teach us “the truth” of our situation.

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            Probably, but I suppose the tortured roundabout way of saying it is to keep the veneer of “leftist” socially acceptable chauvinism as opposed to being more direct about their beliefs.

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    That’s a fun op. Redefine tankie to mean “far left that support violence” and then use that redefinition to create a crowd of people who claim to be left wing supporting Ukraine, opposing China, supporting everything that benefits the US agenda, etc etc.

    What I think this speaks to is the fact it’s getting very hard to create fake sections of the marxist left that support american agenda these days. It has become ubiquitous among marxists that anti-imperialism is the primary contradiction, and because of that it has become extremely difficult to split marxists on anything at all. Even marxists that aren’t fans of Russia recognise its importance to AES and anti-imperialist projects globally.

    There’s more unity among marxists these days than I think I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.

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    Uyghurs

    Job programs and night school?

    Hong Kong

    Reintegrated according to a treaty signed 99 years prior and left with a ton of autonomy?

    Tibet

    Freed the slaves?