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    19 days ago

    There are 8.3 Billion people on Earth alive today, quite possibly JK Rowling is a lamer piece of shit than 99.999999% of them.

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    19 days ago
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    19 days ago

    Isn’t this woman a billionaire? Why is she acting like she’s going to pop down to the local vape store to put any advice into action and not tell some servant to go buy her the best vape?

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    18 days ago

    I’ve noticed that amongst the right, there’s a trend of “The only moral transition is MY transition” going on, Right Wing Transwomen who say they’re the only ones “Doing it to alleviate gender dysphoria” and that by asking for rights the others are “Making it some weird ideology”

    Though they seem to fail to realize that the Right is actively working to prevent gender affirming care from being a thing for even adults.

    JK Rowling seems to be in this camp, as she believes her one trans friend is the only “Legitimate” transperson

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      18 days ago

      She was that way for some time, telling everyone that she respected trans people, just didn’t want them in the bathrooms she was in. She has long dropped the act though, and now fully supports the idea that trans women are all rapists.

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      It’s the same shtick all conservative influencers do. They act like their position is one of common sense while strawmanning the opinions of the left to hell (JKR does this with constant tweets about how biological sex is a real thing, which no one fucking denies, she’s the one denying the scientific consensus around sex, gender, and gender dysphoria), and then when they have garnered enough followers and people gain more of an emotional attachment to them instead of a rational one they show their true colors. This tweet from when Trump won the election comes to mind:

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      And no, trans people are not serial rapists.
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      Safety and Privacy in Public Restrooms and Other Gendered Facilities

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    The woman is horrible and I mostly just want her to stop hurting people, but I do think that replies like this do more harm than good for trans people. Transphobes want to depict us as extremely violent and unsympathetic, and this image sure doesn’t come off sympathetically unless you have all the context and already think that she’s a horrible person. It gives her rhetorical ammo to further fight our acceptance in society.

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      17 days ago

      Every day, Bob claims Percy punched him in the face. Many people support Bob because they hate Percy. Many others support Percy, because Bob deserves to be punched in the face.

      Now, one day, Percy punches Bob in the face. Bob can only make the same claim he always does, to the same reception he always gets. The only difference is Percy having given Bob the face punch he deserves. And Percy is happy.

      I call this story “The TERF who cried Trans Violence”

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      18 days ago

      Hon, don’t try and play Good Queer to people who want you gone. It doesn’t work. That’s explicitly why we have Pride.

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        18 days ago

        You don’t play it to her, you play it to the crowd she’s trying to convince. When we’re being rougher around the edges we should be targeted. The Stonewall riots are a great example, we had been attacked by the law and resisted violently. ACT UP was loud and disruptive and never let you forget that it was about our people dying.

        I’m not saying we should be quiet about her or play nice with her, I’m saying when you go on the offensive make sure that someone who has no idea what’s going on here and might be sympathetic to your cause doesn’t think you’re the bad guy. Constantly saying “kill yourself” to a children’s author turned bigotry financier without even bringing up why she’s evil when you do it is just venting your anger, not advancing our cause.

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          17 days ago

          Stonewall is why ACT UP happened. Riots and protests are why people get prosecuted when they kill us now.

          Don’t try and convince me milquetoast appeasement works, i’m fucking old enough to have lived through the AIDS epidemic.

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          18 days ago

          The right is going to depict us as unsympathetic and violent no matter what we do. They feel no responsibility to the truth because the crowd they play to believes everything they say without question. Playing the good queer gets us nowhere. Their acceptance cannot be gained that way.

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            17 days ago

            Yeah and we can provide them with easy screenshots pre made or we can make it so random people stumbling across us on the internet don’t think “well that’s a really hateful response”.

            Once again, I’m not talking about appealing to the bigots, I’m talking about appealing to the undecided and those uncommitted to their side. They actually can often be won over or at the very least made to not be convinced by right wing attacks. Or they can see our behavior and conclude the right was telling the truth about us.

            Forgive me for not wanting us to pointlessly depict ourselves the way people who hate us do.

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              17 days ago

              Anyone who claims to be undecided about whether trans people should exist is lying and sides with the transphobes.

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              17 days ago

              “My, people are talking shit on the internet to a controversial celebrity known for bigotry and writing rather midding childrens books. Clearly this means she’s right in her bigotry!”

              Do you hear yourself. “I used to be left / support X/ be a decent person until-” is a fucking lie.

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                17 days ago

                So do you see where you’re misrepresenting my statements? Because I didn’t say they were right, I implied that people who never met us and don’t care might think so.

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                  17 days ago

                  and they’re going to think so regardless of how much you simp.

                  Don’t bother appeasing someone who will shit in your face no matter what you do.

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          17 days ago

          Rowling and her hate aren’t unknown though. She spends as much time on Twitter spewing her bs and baiting responses she can cry “Look, I’m the victim” as she does writing novels.

          She leveraged her established celebrity and presence to become a very public spokesperson for TERFs. She knows what she’s doing when she plays “but I’m a beloved children’s author and only want to protect kids”. It’s the same thing Trump did when he decided to become political. He didn’t have to build his name and recognition, he used the fact he was already well known to champion a cause. The difference is Trump’s brand was asshole all along, Rowling was a bit of a surprise because, yeah, she was a beloved children’s author.

          She’s made this fight a main topic of her Internet presence. People who are likely to read her tweets and see the reposts are internet literate and this has been going on long enough most of those people know the hill she’s dying on without context. It’d be like telling Bill Cosby to kill himself. He was once a beloved TV dad, but the vast majority of people would know why someone would tell him that.

          It’s also a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. She’s already made herself a victim of her fantasies, she’s going to keep being a famous mouthpiece for the haters. It is anger, which is fine, it’s the frustration that none of us are going to deplatform or silence her. As for advancing the cause? The haters have chosen hate, they know they’ve chosen hate, they like to hate, they have the power to hate, and they are either going to see their hate through to the conclusion of their goals or die trying. They’re not going to suddenly change their minds because the people they seek to destroy are polite and compliant.

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            17 days ago

            Finally, someone treating my stance as it actually is rather than just calling me a simp for bigots.

            But I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I also do think that it’s really easy to overestimate how much the average person knows about what we care about. That’s something generally true about everyone who cares about anything.

            And you’re right she is baiting these responses so she can play victim, my problem is that it’s rarely considered a good idea to take bait. I’m not saying don’t denounce her, I’m not saying don’t be mean to her, what I am saying is to not hand her the screenshots she’s angling for.

            You’re right that we’re damned no matter what we do, and I’m deeply sympathetic to the people who are angry and frustrated and just want to lash out. Gods know I feel similarly, and even moreso when I was hormonal as hell and new to navigating the world as an out trans woman. But I wish that when I was that age an older trans person had sat me down and explained the difference between productive and unproductive expressions of that anger.

            You gave reasons you believe it wasn’t destructive, and that’s fair, I disagree because it’s a screenshot for her supporters to use as propaganda, but I get where everyone is coming from. However, I believe there’s nothing it can really do to help. She’s not going to take the advice. She’s not going to stop posting bait or funding the loss of our rights. As everyone seems to be in agreement, there’s no course of action to cause that. It won’t even hurt her feelings, because as already said, she wants this. But it’s also not going to invigorate our allies or lead to further support. It’s not going to make her fans who are uncomfortable with her bigotry stop consuming her media. At best it’s impotent catharsis that doesn’t spread a message.

            I see the median voter as an amoral idiot who decides opinions largely based on vibes and emotions. I’m calling for our public expressions of anger to be ones that invite sympathy when taken independently of context. Not necessarily because of this specific situation, but because it’s a good habit, and because even those who support us judge us harshly. It’s not fair and I’m not calling for this because I think it’s some moral responsibility or anything, but because over the years I’ve seen our community utilize different tactics and we got a lot better results when we played to sympathy and likability. It was an underrated flank in the fight for gay rights as well. I’m not calling for mattachine style respectability, but PFLAG style sympathy.

            Sigh, idk

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      18 days ago

      Counterpoint: the venn diagram of transphobes and fascists is a circle, and the only language fascists understand is violence.

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        18 days ago

        Yeah, but there are a lot of people they’re trying to convince to be bigots and you sure can aid in their arguments or hinder them. I’m not going to pretend that people who are undecided on if I deserve rights or who only kinda lean one way are good people. But I want us to make the bigots have to work for it to make us come off badly, or at the very least when we come off badly for it to actually have a chance at advancing anything.

        So I guess really my attitude is: what good do posts like this and replies like depicted in it actually serve? Because as far as I’m concerned if I were conducting an anti trans psyop I’d absolutely be encouraging that behavior. It feels good while being easier than activism, community building, and being a positive first interaction with trans people, all while giving plenty of room to allow bigots to claim that they’re the victims of the people they’re actually taking rights from.

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      18 days ago

      She’s had ample opportunity to educate herself and come around. She’s refused to do so and has continued to double down on her bigotry. Fuck that bitch. Anyone that would be sympathetic to her should dome themselves too.

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      18 days ago

      She’s asking about vapes so now she’s a double tit, so she can get all that’s coming to her.

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    17 days ago

    At first I thought: “Wow, that’s mean! Vaping is annoying but not deserving of such an overblown reaction.”

    Then, I saw who asked.

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      17 days ago

      Sorry for not being loving to someone who calls me a rapist 🤷

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          17 days ago

          If you look at everything JK has said and done, and you DON’T hate the spiteful, Nazi-apologist, transphobic billionaire from the Epstein files for something, then I’d say you’re the one with serious issues.

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            17 days ago

            Yeah I had a guy that cyber stalked me and told me to kill myself. That guy was mentally ill. Don’t be that guy

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              17 days ago

              Are you a spiteful, Nazi-apologist, transphobic billionaire from the Epstein files? If not, your comment is irrelevant.

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                  17 days ago

                  Your comment about someone telling you to kill yourself is only relevant to this discussion if you are a spiteful, Nazi-apologist, transphobic billionaire from the Epstein files. Otherwise, it’s a disconnected distraction that should be discarded.

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          17 days ago

          Of course, run away like the chickenshit pissant troll that you are 🤡

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                17 days ago

                That’s me and your take away should be that you should seek help if not from me than from someone else. I do recommend reading some of he replies.

                Did you think I’d be embarrassed by it? I left it there for posterity

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    18 days ago

    I’d have simply given her a link to a nice big vape that she can use all the time. Do not interrupt your enemy when she is making a mistake.

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      18 days ago

      Honestly, I’d rather she just go away quickly than stay around for long to do her damage so in this case, the tip is actually great.

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    18 days ago

    Didn’t read the username at first and thought it was just a needlessly mean response. Turns out, very needfully mean.