• nialv7@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    jokes aside, i’d say british cuisine is definitely taking more flak than what it deserves.

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      Yeah, you all definitely have… 8 or maybe 9 edible things that aren’t beer or curry.

      All the same, I’d rather have a full English breakfast than 90% of French food and 98% of German food. Kidneys in cream, or raw pork crackers, or bread and cheese like they invented it or whatever.

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        Very ignorant take because everything a full English offers is also very German. This includes the pig blood which isn’t french but you probably didn’t think of that anyway.

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          Branding and beans for breakfast. That’s why the English get the win here, which is also occasionally called a full Irish breakfast if there’s no Brits looking. Plus, the English hardly have any indigenous culinary variety or spices. Why else colonize with such a passion?

          And I’m actually very much ok with black pudding, that’s not the issue. I don’t like northern French cuisine because it’s just “how much butter and cream can we pump into this snail or these poor mushrooms or a potato that was fine all on its own? Can we drown this perfectly mediocre cut of beef in cream and butter to make it seem fancy?” I’m far more partial to living below the butter/olive oil border. Southern France on the sea is tolerable, they’re also below the border.

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            Snails are not a northern France thing though (unless you have a loose definition of north). It’s mostly central, with a huge correlation with tourist hotspots

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              They confused Central French with Northern French, but it’s true that classic French cuisine, both northern and central, use too much dairy.

              I mean I love France with all my being, but there’s no denying the use of cream and butter (or cheese in Northern French cuisine.

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          I left the 2% for pretzels, sausage, and Haribo gummies.

          And Italians also make bread, you’ll notice they’re not on the exclusion list.

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          The French have good bread as well. Not as good as what we have in Italy of course, but well, they’re doing their best!

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      Of course it does. I grew up in the UK and it’s fun taking jabs but then you have a bunch of people who just keep doubling down as if they’re God’s gift to the kitchen.

      My favourite take of theirs is always what they exclude from English food but they’ll talk about American food and include everybody else’s cuisine …

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        In fairness, a lot of people will only experience or know what’s brought out as quintessential English for at holidays or other special occasions, which isn’t always the best thing there is to offer from the cuisine. It’s something else entirely if you actually go there for a couple of weeks and pay attention to all the delicious stuff you’ll eat while there.

        Plus, you get plenty of weirdos from every country who seem to have Stockholm syndrome with the most bland/boring aspects of their cuisine and will wholeheartedly recommend their absolute most terrible dish as the pinnacle of their country’s cuisine. I have a coworker from Ireland who won’t touch a spice bag if his life depended on it, but will tell anyone who listens how wonderful beans on buttered brown bread is and that it should be more common everywhere.

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          lol I actually quite like Irish food. Went to a random pub in Galway and had some stew and it was so good! Irish beef is awesome.

          I have friends kinda like what you described though. No spices and they love bland food, lol.

          I’m okay with people taking jabs at British food to be honest. Like, my first year back when I was an adult I didn’t know what to eat and I actually cooked more because I didn’t know what to get. It wasn’t until I made some friends that I knew places to check.

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        What’s crazy is all the trash they talk about American food, and somehow managed to completely forget that Louisiana is in America…

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      Yeah, tikka masala is awesome. And yeah fish and chips is amazing too. It’s just that brits also have stuff like boiled roasts

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        I do believe tikka masala is British but it is funny that it’s the first thing you said because it’s also very clearly Indian

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          Yes, that was intentional to attempt to be humorous. It was invented by brits returning home attempting to recreate Indian food.

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          indian the same as pizza is italian. invented elsewhere by emigres to another country who then had family bring back the crazy new fusion food for the people of the homeland to go “oh that’s good.”

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              what am i thinking of then that’s an itallian-american dish that got popular back in italy. i was thinking the phenomenon was called pizzafication but maybe it’s… lasagnafication?

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                Idk man, Fettuccine Alfredo? But then I wasn’t able to find information about it actually being popular in Italy.

                This may just be a myth. The Wikipedia pages you linked seems to believe something anyway.

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          Something I’ve seen brits complain about on the internet before, Something about Sunday roasts involving far too much boiling and not enough seasoning

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      I’m not much of a fan of many traditional British dishes, and there are some things many British people seem to enjoy make me wonder about their taste buds. OTOH, Britain once had a worldwide empire, and it brought back a lot of dishes from that empire to the mainland. Indian curries are the obvious example, but there’s also Caribbean food, Chinese food, even other curries from South-East Asia.

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      idk man. I went to the UK to sample some of the cuisine thinking it can’t be that bad and I have mixed feeling afterwards. Like the food is edible at least.

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          Pasta has been around in Italy since at least the Roman era. The story that they didn’t know about pasta until Marco Polo returned from China is just not true. He might have brought back some specific new recipes, but Italians have been enjoying pasta since before the three kingdoms began their romance.

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      The Etruscans, famously known for their tomato sauce.

      “Food made by people living on what is now the Italian peninsula” is not a synonym for “Italian food.”

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        Yeah, all they did was form the basis for modern pasta, and cultivate the seasonings used by modern Italians. I’m sure that counts for absolutely nothing. /s

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      Ahkshually, cultures all over the world have eaten crustaceans for millennia!

      (I made up that fact for the sake of the punch line, no idea if accurate)

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        My people would rather have starved than eat crustaceans. Lobsters were being fed to prisoners in the US until recently. People are weird.

        (It was a valiant attempt)

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          I can! I come from that area and it’s a real dish that is eaten commonly and served in pubs and restaurants. If you go to a local market, you can get then to take away with scoops of mushy peas in the container too.

          I don’t eat meat, so I can’t speak to the taste, but mushy peas themselves are delicious and shouldn’t taste anything like garden peas. They are more like a dal.

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    British food is great. Chicken tikka, pizza, Chinese, lasagne… The list goes on.

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      In all seriousness, there’s some great British food and people get too territorial about what constitutes as what food belongs to whom.

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        Definitely - foods like British / Scottish / Irish / Ulster fry, pork pies, bangers & mash, fish & chips, Sunday roast (carved meat, roast potatoes, yorkshire puds), shepherd’s pie, beef wellington to name a few. Plenty of deserts too. And ingredients like worcester sauce, English mustard, marmite etc.

        A Sunday roast / carvery is basically what Americans get when they order prime rib. The cut of meat is slightly different due to different classifications but for all intents and purposes it’s a Sunday rib roast. For some bizarre reason in the US it’s regarded as fine dining with a price 4x as much as it would be for a better Sunday roast meal / carvery in a British pub. Over two decades ago I went to dine in a Lawry’s Prime Rib in Chicago - big mistake - massively overpriced for what it was.

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          Out of the food you mentioned only Beef Wellington and English Breakfast/Ulster Fry/ are uniquely British.

          Everything else is either not a dish (fried sausage and potatoes definitely is not a dish you philistine :P) or not distinct enough.

          Pork pies, fish and chips, roast, shepherds pie - it is eaten in Britain, but is not unique to them, as was historically eaten across the whole Europe (I mean it is fish and chips, it didn’t need “inventing”).

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            I think we need these smaller distinctions to have a meaningful conversation about food. If not, French crepes would be too similar to Norwegian pancakes, pizza and quiche could be the same if you ignore the yeast and tomato sauce, and if you really want to stretch it you could group Japanese ramen and Polish pasta soup together. In some ways I want to agree with you, for good ideas usually pop up multiple times and places, but I am too fond of traveling and tasting different food traditions to give in.

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              Chef here. I have at least 100 recipes for various types of pancakes the world over.

              Never underestimate an Americans willingness to take their single racist heirloom joke and run it into the Martians trench thinking it’s a fact.

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    Don’t worry, it’s not a trad misogynist belief that women belong in the kitchen. It’s just a widdle bit of cute racism.

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    But seriously i had a roast at an English friends house, have you guys ever heard of slow cooking? Braising? Grilling? Marinating? Just throwing a roast in boiling water or in the oven for an hour isnt gonna cut it