• Shapillon@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    It reminds me of an old Polish joke:

    A Pole finds a magic lamp, strokes it, and a genie comes out.

    “I will grant you three wishes. They can be anything your heart desire.”

    "I wish for the Mongols to invade Poland!’

    “Ok? It is done”

    The Mongol hordes sweep through Poland, ransack the country, then go back the way they came.

    “I am ready for my second wish. I want the Mongols to invade Poland again!”

    “Are you sure? I can give you anything your heart wishes.”

    “Yes. I am sure”

    The Mongols come again, do some more pillaging, and return home.

    “And now for my third wish. I want the Mongol hordes to invade Poland a third time.”

    “Are you really sure?”

    “Yes.”

    “Okay. Before I grant you your wish, would you mind explaining me why you would want that not once but thrice?”

    “It’s very simple: Whenever the Mongols come to Poland they have to cross Russia twice!”

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      11 days ago

      The US really is just this hateful polish guy. A solid 35% of americans would happily raze our own country than let one poor person have a subsidized lunch.

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      11 days ago

      This is so funny. I just told my wife, who’s Ukrainian, this joke and she burst out laughing.
      Also, as Canadians. We wish there were mongol hordes we could get to invade us, through the US.

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        Mongols. Mongols would need to cross both Russia and US.

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        11 days ago

        As long as russia keeps invading countries it has no business being in, it is extremely funny.

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      12 days ago

      Last time Russia and Germany invaded Poland together. Presumably this would be Germany and Poland invading Russia.

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        11 days ago

        After the refusal of France, England and Poland to enter a military alliance against the Nazis with the USSR, the only alternative to a partial Soviet occupation of Poland was a total Nazi occupation of Poland. Tell me, would you prefer a total Nazi occupation of Poland?

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          Erm, Stalin did a deal with Hitler, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. In a secret protocol, they agreed to carve up Europe between them with the USSR to take Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Bessarabia and half of Poland. The Finland part didn’t work out so well, and Hitler went on to break the pact. The details of this were proven only when it was made public during the Nuremberg trials.

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            You haven’t answered my question: would you have preferred a total Nazi occupation of Poland?

            Erm, Stalin did a deal with Hitler, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

            Yes, to postpone as much as possible the war between the 100-year-old industrial power that was Germany, and the 10-year-into-industrialization USSR. This was done after the Soviets were consistently denied mutual defense agreements with Poland, England and France, in which Stalin offered to send ONE MILLION soldiers to France and Poland to defend against the Nazi threat (together with artillery, tanks and aviation). The Soviets even offered to collectively start war against the Nazis instead of the Munich agreements in defense of Czechoslovakia, which the western powers again refused. It was then and only then when the Soviets changed the previous minister and put Molotov in place, to postpone the inevitable war against the Nazis for as long as possible during the key industrialisation years.

            Please, answer my question above

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    11 days ago

    Wars are fought by people. Everyone who doesn’t to end blown up somewhere in a trench in an inter imperialist struggle should be antiwar. Stop fucking beating the drums of war, we need to prevent WW3 from happening, and it’s not too late to do so.

    Stop cheering for military expenditure, stop electing fascist politicians in Europe, stop buying into war propaganda. We can avoid this war. Do not condemn yourself or your loved ones to passing through the meat grinder, your government doesn’t give a fuck about human rights or abour your life.

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        Oh you spoke in Latin, hence you must be right!

        I want peace, which is why I will push for negotiations and peace agreements between Russia and Europe (and probably the US seeing their tendencies)

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            Presupposing that the “evil country” will break agreements isn’t good praxis in diplomacy. There would never be deescalation and diplomacy otherwise.

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                I’ll also leave this paragraph here for no particular reason

                “In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these [nukes] to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.”