Hope you had a great christmas
My leek+mushroom stuffed seitan roast was delicious, antibiotic-free, and cruelty-free. So tyvm, I did.
How did it taste? Do you have a recipe I can follow? I don’t know hoe far a vegan ingredients shopping run will go where I live though.
The gluten doesn’t have a very strong flavour on its own (it basically tastes like unflavoured bread) but it picks up whatever you season it with very well. The recipe I make goes for a typical poultry style seasoning with nooch and veggie broth. The stuffing is very umami with a little brightness from the lemon. It’s very yummy.
Here’s the recipe I use for the roast:
https://www.theppk.com/2011/11/seitan-roast-stuffed-with-shiitakes-and-leeks/
And I make the gravy from this recipe:
https://www.rabbitandwolves.com/vegan-crispy-black-pepper-cauliflower-steaks/
(Which incidentally is also a very good vegan holiday recipe in its own right!)
You might have trouble finding vital wheat gluten. I’d recommend checking either health food or bulk stores, or just buying it online. Everything else should be pretty easily accessible.
While you can make the recipe with the wash-the-flour method from regular flour, it’s already a bit of a challenging recipe, and you have to tweak quite a few things to get the proper wet:dry ratio, so I wouldn’t recommend it, especially for your first try.
I normally also do a side of mashed potatoes, and then some other veg like carrots+parsnips, or Brussels sprouts.
If you get a lot of specialty items (like faux cheeses and meats) it won’t go far. If you shop like normal but just skip the animal products it’ll almost surely be cheaper than regular groceries. You can make your own seitan very easily, there are many YouTube videos showing you how. It’s just a simple dough that is washed and kneaded to develop the gluten. You can also make your own tofu, but tofu is dirt cheap unless you get fancy stuff so I recommend just buying it.
The is is interesting. I thought the US would be much higher. Though doesn’t surprise me to see china so high up
Light blue is bang on in the middle so it’s still quite a lot.
I mean, we’re doing better than basically every other 1st world country, and those that are beating us don’t have big livestock industries.
Are Nordic countries invisible to you?
The U.S. has to pretend that they don’t exist because it would cause them to face a lot of big issues otherwise.
we’re doing better than basically every other 1st world country
You must have a very unusual definition of first world.
“Bang on in the middle” of the legend, but not of the data. And below the middle of the legend, actually. The bottom half of the legend covers 0 - 50 while the top half covers 50 - 200+. The US is at 31 mg/kg as of 2020
31mg too much
It’s impossible to use 0 unless you just want to let animals die from and spread infections. We live in a world in which bacteria and animals have been in an evolutionary arms race for a billion years
I feel like we shouldn’t be eating meat if we have to jump through so much shit to “make it work”. Putting increasing your tolerance to antibiotics on the top of the cake and it’s a no go for health reasons alone.
Survey was for antibiotics not steroids
Ah - that was why I was so confused. Canada, for example, limits the growth hormone in dairy cattle while the US does not.
Brazil certainly should be broken down by state, I imagine the USA as well.
My state in south Brazil has VERY strict controls on animals entering the state so we can use less antibiotics and other stuff.
You have been banned from lemmy.ml
this should be adjusted for amount produced … in chile the antibiotic usage is high but we mostly consume meat from Argentina and Brasil
Are the nordics low because of cleaner feed operations, or are the nordics zero because it’s been banned?
In Scandinavia they have a policy to minimize the use of antibiotics, even on people, to prevent antibiotic resistance.
Is this true? Every Chinese person I know says the US is more than China and it affects meat flavor
I mean, thats asking the fox what he did in the hen house, to coin a paraphrase. Chinese citizens are generally very nationalistic and have a very skewed perspective due to the near total control of information the government has.
I got an interesting answer from family. They said they only get countryside local chicken this way they don’t get the factory chicken with all the meds. These are typically used in restaurants not homes.
This makes sense!
And this is another reason why statistics from China may not be accurate. How much of the population is getting their food in the same manner and it isn’t recorded by the government?
Do you really think that China, the country most known for its massive cities and factory farms, really gets a meaningful amount of animal protein from local farms?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/278566/urban-and-rural-population-of-china/
They have 477 million people living in rural areas.
Can someone explain the disparity between Australia’s and New Zealand’s use of antibiotics in meat?
Probably exports. Small population + large number of exports, it’s possible the per capita scaling skews this.
