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    11 个月前

    Biden called Trump a loser multiple times. Pointed out every single fucked up thing he’s said and done. Biden went hard against Trump. This is the most I’ve seen him on the offensive. Keep this shit up!

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      He’s got literally nothing else to motivate voters…

      I’m relatively confident he can pull off a narrow win against trump. But if trumps off the ballots, and it’s a “normal” Republican or even desantis, we might be fucked.

      Biden wants trump to run for the same reason Hillary did, I just hope he’s not dumb enough to actually help trump make it to the general like Hillary did

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        This isn’t true anymore, though it was over the summer. DeSantis is polling neck-in-neck with Nikki Haley, down in the 15-16% range. That gets even smaller outside the GOP.

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        Even Republicans don’t like DeSantis. The more campaigning he has done nationally, the lower his numbers have gotten. He would get absolutely whooped. Trump is far more dangerous.

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    11 个月前

    I’d rather hear what he’s going to do and how he’s going to do it than be told shit we already know.

    • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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      11 个月前

      Look to the Democratic Party platform if you want to know what he’ll aspire to. What he can actually do will be constrained by the Congress we elect and by the courts

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        Hasn’t been restrained by Congress when he bypasses it to fund a genocide but for anything else suddenly he has zero power

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          The President has a bunch of explicit power around military decisions.

          That’s not the same as being able to just go do anything.

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          Yeah because Republicans wanted that. Do you not understand civics? They don’t want anything else that actually helps America

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      That’s the entire platform, ‘we are not trump, although most of our policies mirror Trump, we are not him.’. And are shocked that’s not enough for voters.

  • Marxism-Fennekinism@lemmy.ml
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    11 个月前

    He’s correct about Trump, but why do I doubt that this will make a lick of difference to the people who were going to vote Trump? Unfortunately him saying that will probably only confirm to the Trumpists that Trump is the scrappy underdog hero they already think he is.

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      The goal is not to convince Trump’s core supporters, but to get low-information voters to understand what the choice they’re making actually is.

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          God forbid you mention the looming climate apocalypse while these guys are trying to fellate the democratic party.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Bidens just the president, he can’t do anything!

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        Look at all the good stuff that happened, Biden did that!

        Is getting fucking old mate.

        Pick a lane.

        • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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          That’s what a system where a President has significant but not unlimited power looks like: he can do a lot, but it’s not unlimited.

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            So how is Biden responsible for a drop in crime?

            Last I heard he was still talking about how the 92 reduction was Clinton’s harsher punishment despite a shit ton of empirical evidence it was the natural result of banning leaded gas a generation earlier.

            And why are you saying he’s doing stuff to help the environment when fossil fuels.production has drastically increased since he took office? Did he sign an executive order about low flow toilets and we’re just ignoring how bad fossil fuels are again?

            It’s hard to keep up with neoliberals, their reality is constantly changing

            • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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              Two big ways:

              • the successful vaccine scale-up and distribution enabled people to socialize again
              • the Inflation Reduction Act spending ensured that a lot of people could work

              These sharply changed peoples behavior in ways that have made crime less of a problem nationally.

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                the successful vaccine scale-up and distribution enabled people to socialize again

                I’d love to see a source that first vaccination went up under Biden, and you’re not just talking about the same people taking multiple vaccines. But your acting like there weren’t vaccines under trump?

                Are you just talking about Biden giving a bunch of taxpayer money so that giant billion dollar companies would keep making the vaccines they were making crazy money on already?

                the Inflation Reduction Act

                Presidents can pass legislation?

                If Biden did that, why can’t he do anything about: cannabis, abortion, healthcare, student loans, taxing the wealthy, breaking up corporations…

                Really anything that when he gets asked about he says presidents can’t pass legislation so he can’t do anything?

                Because it kind of feels like you’re just giving credit to Biden for anything good that happened while in office.

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                  The President’s signature is the last step in its passage, and he and his staff were intimately involved in the negotiation needed to get it through congress. He’s not magic, but Biden got things done when others would likely have failed.

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      Ironically it’s also the death of democracy.

      If you have to vote for a certain party, you’re not free to vote.

      And let’s be real, the republicans are only going to be fielding worse and more dangerous people going forward so there will never be a chance to vote any other way than dem. Let’s hope you like right wing corporate interests because that’s all you’re getting.

  • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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    The people that sue to keep people off ballots, RCV off ballots, rig their own primaries, and cancel primaries to install their chosen candidate have no business talking about threats to democracy

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      People that sue to keep insurrectionists off the ballot are fine by me.

    • tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works
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      There are different levels to being a threat to democracy. I’m pretty sure what Democrats did doesn’t really compare with the dictatorship Trump has in mind and what happened on Jan 6.

    • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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      Biden isn’t suing to keep anyone off a ballot. Trump being charged and held accountable for the crimes he committed is how the justice system is supposed to work.

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        how the justice system is supposed to work.

        You don’t actually believe that, if you did you would be saying he has a right to be in the ballot because he hasnt been convicted. Right there there is a claim he’s responsible for insurrection, but no conviction. Which is how I believe SCOTUS will rule.

        • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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          He doesn’t need to be convicted to be removed from the ballot. He certainly should if he is convicted, but that isn’t a requirement under the 14th amendment.

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              Article 3 of the 14th Amendment has been invoked at least 8 times in the past few centuries. Please review them and explain to me you think how Trump deserves better treatment than the previous 8 people.

              Trump doesn’t believe in due process. He’s literally said as much.

              His people don’t believe in due process.

              If he is allowed to get back into the white house, he will absolutely ignore every single thing preventing him from going full dictator. Due process won’t matter to him, the rule of law won’t matter to him, the goddamn constitution won’t matter to him.

              But at least you’ll be able to feel smug knowing that you almost got “bluemaga” to be a thing.

              • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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                almost got BlueMAGA to be a thing

                It has been a thing, you not being aware of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

                Your entire comment is meaningless hyperbole.

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                  The latter half may be hyperbolic … but the former, about article 3 is fact. Cry about it all you want, it’s express purpose is to stop assholes like Trump.

            • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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              Not having even the basic understanding of the law? How moronic of you.

              • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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                Basic understanding of law means a basic understanding of due process and how everyone is entitled to it. Not just the people you agree with. Denying due process to those you oppose makes you the same type of dictator liberals claim to hate.

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                  Yes but you don’t seem to understand that due process in this case doesn’t mean he needs a criminal trial and conviction for him to be removed.

                  Read the 14th amendment then tell me where it mentions “convicted of insurrection” - it does not. It only mentions participation, or even supporting someone who participated.

                  Trump is receiving the due process as we speak right now.

    • Numberone@startrek.website
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      They’re not wrong. The Dems aren’t the good guys here. As usual they’re just slightly less bad. Someone that loves democracy lets a primary election happen rather annointing their chosen meat puppet…sorry, candidate.

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      Why do commies agree with MAGAs so often? “Ukraine Nazis! American government evil!” Fuck outta this country. We gotta crowdfund one way plane tickets to North Korea for your lot

      • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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        BlueMAGA has more in common with MAGA than socialists and communists have with either of you. If it were trump doing the exact same things Biden has done liberals would be all up in arms about it. The same way they’ve been quiet while Biden enacts the exact same immigration policies as trump, still locking kids in cages. Has kept DeJoy and Trump’s appointment. Same mental impairments that liberals write off as a stutter, despite NO videos from earlier years showing any impairment.