• Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
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    26 days ago

    I think it’s actually more appropriate to say that Europe is way further North than most people think based on its climate and such.

    The only reason north west Europe’s climate isn’t more like Canada’s is because the Gulf Stream and AMOC drag heat up North from the Southern hemisphere.

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    24 days ago

    Just for comparison, this is what the “Southernmost Limit” of Canada looks like in Europe:

    Santa Marinella

    And Montreal & Ottawa is around Lake Lugano:

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    24 days ago

    sure, but Canada turns into a tundra (during winter) whereas the Atlantic currents bring warm temperatures from Africa, which is why London has fog; it’s where the warm currents exchange into cold air.

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    26 days ago

    I don’t think anyone is going to confuse the weather in Windsor, Ontario and Rome, though.

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      26 days ago

      Not yet. Global warming melting Greenland ice sheets is likely to cause the AMOC to slow / collapse, ending Europe’s temperate climate. This is possible within your lifetime.

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        26 days ago

        Just to add some explanation on this for those who don’t know:

        The AMOC, which is a massive circular oceanic current in the Atlantic, passes in a South-North direction at the surface near Europe, bringing warm water from Africa, which helps make Europe warmer (especially near the Atlantic) than it would otherwise be.

        Hence why it slowing down or even stopping would end Europe’s temperate climate.

        • JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch
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          25 days ago

          From what I remember last time I read up on this, in conjunction with global warming, there is roughly a line from Paris to Frankfurt where more north than that, temperatures cool down because of AMOC collapse, and south of that temperatures are higher than pre-industrial because global warming outweighs AMOC collapse cooling.

          But of course those are just relatively rough projections, and it’s average temperature, the extremes will still be way worse. So it’s not like Frankfurt will have peachy weather while the rest of the world goes to shit.

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    25 days ago

    As someone from the southwest US, I don’t understand how everyone in every European country isn’t absolutely freezing their tits off year-round. Something to do with the Gulfstream? IDK

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      25 days ago

      Scandinavia is hospitable to human habitation purely because of the Gulf Stream. British Isles and Northern Europe also enjoy much milder climates due to it.

      Southern Europe gets its warmth mostly from Africa. Most of the Eastern Europe is far enough from the oceans to enjoy continental climate, which means very warm summers and cold winters.

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      26 days ago

      Hamburgh may refer to: An older English spelling of the German city of Hamburg, used up until the 19th century, from which the other meanings below are derived

      Huh. Maybe it’s the birthplace of the German Ebenezer Scrooge. “Bah, Hamburgh!”

    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      26 days ago

      I have always felt the opposite. Europe is way further north than I would have expected given their climate. I realize now it is kept warm by the gulf steam and North America get that in reverse, hence really cold eastern Canada and New England.

      • alpine_jim@piefed.social
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        26 days ago

        No reverse. New England and eastern Canada are warmed by the same currents too, albeit not as much. The heat generally comes from the Caribbean. North Korea and Hokkaido have far colder winters and milder summers at similar latitude.

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          26 days ago

          I believe you actually have it backwards. Europe is warmed by the gulf steam, it cools off on the way back to Canada and the US. If the Gulf Steam is disrupted as predicted, the UK is going to be in for a really cold time.