• ieatpwns@lemmy.world
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    Secret to White Castle burgers is steaming the patty over onions on the pan/griddle and putting the bottom bun on while steaming.

    Secret to McDonald’s burgers is salt pepper and a touch of msg.

    Big Mac sauce is ketchup mayo touch of mustard and some relish

    Popeyes chicken is just buttermilk marinated chicken coated with flour cornstarch and a touch of baking soda.

    More wholesome fast food at home and it’s cheaper too

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      Fast food at home takes a higher level of time and skill commitment. For fried chicken i gotta source all ingredients for the batter, make more than i need for the chicken to have adequate coatings, use a shitload of oil for a deep fry or buy a deep fryer, cook the chicken, then clean up the dishes and kitchen afterwards.

      It is still defintely possible but many people working long shifts or overtime find it hard to do. My method for nearly any meal with more than 5 minutes of prep+cook time is to make lots of it, as you get more food per time invested that way and just eat it for a few days or freeze extra servings.

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        Almost every issue you’re describing can be addressed with proper mise en place. Unfortunately, it’s a skill that requires practice and can be improved by training. Teaching mise en place as a core skill in schools could help everyone with anything from cooking to home repair, but we apparently don’t want people to know diy skills…

        Anyway, here’s a few tips:

        • For burgers: Find some frozen patties that you like. I really like Birchwood Beef Burgers (not beef patties, different products). I go with frozen so that I didn’t feel pressured to eat more beef in a week than I want to, just because I bought it.
        • Also for burgers, but great for home cooking: Buy frozen, diced onions. An entire bag usually costs less than two onions. When you’re about to flip your frozen burger patties, lay a small bed of frozen onions, sprinkle on salt and pepper, and flip the burger directly on them. This trick also works great with Morningstar veggie burgers.
        • Fried chicken marinating: Use a bag and insert a straw to create a small opening before you close the bag. Then, slowly submerge the bag in water while you seal it. Once your marinade starts going above the top of your seal, pull the straw out and seal your bag. This will substantially save on the volume necessary to marinate the chicken.
        • Fried chicken dredge 1: Add a little corn starch to your eggs. You can put the corn starch directly on your raw chicken, but that tends to lead to waste. The corn starch helps the eggs and batter stick. Don’t worry about lumps. Chopsticks are great for mixing.
        • Fried chicken dredge 2: Use the chopsticks or a fork to dribble your dredge into your breading, then give it a slight mix. This will give your chicken a crispy texture.
        • Fried chicken breading 1: Mix your spices first. Keep it relatively simple. My favorite mix is plenty of salt, a little msg, lots of garlic powder, little onion powder, white chili powder, black and white pepper, freeze dried chives. Add your flour to your spice blend, and taste it. Add flour until the spices give you just the right kick. The floury flavor will go away when it cooks, but it’ll still dilute the spices, so the flavor profile shouldn’t change much while the chicken cooks.
        • Fried chicken breading 2: Use a container that is deeper than you think you’d need; it’s easier to conserve breading when you stack the chicken instead of spreading them out. Place all or as much of the chicken into the breading, coating and covering one piece at a time. Let them sit in there for a while before you start frying them. Fry in batches, you’ll have to re-coat the chicken in the breading before frying the later batches. These will be extra crispy.
        • Fried chicken breading 2: Don’t make too much. Make more if you need more and then dump it on top of the chicken laying in the breading, but you’ll need far less than cooking videos will make you believe.
        • Fried chicken frying 1: Use a high temp oil, and don’t let it get too hot. You can use a thermometer if you want, but sprinkling in some of your breading will let you know if you’re at the right temperature. Instant bubbles that swell then subside, and then slowly turning brown is exactly what you want. If it bubbles slowly start and you don’t notice a color change after 10-30 seconds, your oil isn’t hot enough. If it bubbles rapidly and changes colors immediately, your oil is too hot. Give your oil a few minutes to reach temp, 3-10 should be good.
        • Fried chicken frying 2: I favor wider pans over deeper pans. You want the pan about 1 or 2 inches taller than the halfway point of your thickest piece of chicken. That extra 1-2 inches is to prevent your oil from spilling over. Even if your oil level doesn’t quite reach halfway up your thickest piece of chicken, the oil will bubble and climb its way up your fried chicken. So, you’ll likely be fine if you’re under by as much as a quarter of an inch. I’ve used cake or pie pans and tongs on a hot plate to fry chicken, and it comes out great. My preferred pan is a deep saute pan.
        • Fried chicken frying 3: Keep a plate or something with a wire rack over it to drain your chicken after they’re done. Sprinkle salt over the pieces immediately once the next round of chicken comes out of the fryer, you can move the chicken from the rack to a plate. Add soon as the last batch of chicken goes into the fryer, dump what little breading you have left into the trash, and then at least rinse the container. When you’re done, allow the oil to cool completely, and then filter it through some coffee filters. If you kept the oil at a good temperature, you should get one or two more uses after it.

        If you follow the fried chicken tips correctly, you should have used:

        • 1 ziplock bag
        • 1 straw
        • 1 pair of chopsticks
        • 1 bowl
        • 1 container
        • 1 oil frying thing
        • 1 funnel
        • A few coffee filters
        • 2 plates
        • 1 wire rack

        If you clean as you go, your kitchen should be clean (except for the still-hot oil in the pan or fryer or whatever) before you bring the chicken to the table. That’ll give it enough time to rest and be juicy as fuck instead of drying out the instant you bite into a steam bomb.

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        More than one hour of hourly wage for a single meal. Or more than one hour of work for multiple homemade meals? I’m going with more than one hour of work for multiple meals. But you do you

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          This ignores the skill portion. I might ruin 3 meals before i make something edible that my body actually wants me to keep eating. I also keep coupons and know the local deals, my avergae fast food order ends up being about 30 minutes worth of wages. And tbh my work doesnt have a proper lunch break so I’m often still getting paid for 15-20 minutes i spend ordering and eating. It is still a loss compared to bringing food, which i usually do, but its not a massive loss.

          Part of my problem as well is i dont work a defined shift and often end up spur of the moment working late. So if I pull something out to defrost or start soaking beans in the morning. Working ovetime can delay my cooking time from 5 pm to 8 pm, often cutting into the time i should be going to bed or getting other important shit done. I do meal prepping to help mitigate this but then im often eating the same lunch and dinner for 3-4 days straight, which can get difficult on the pallete.

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          He’s gotten more into the “I found this thing people were raving about, let me show you with a glasses throw” and less into the “hey check out this dope recipe it’s so good I threw my glasses” and “hey this fast food company pissed me off so here’s their secret recipe”

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            23 days ago

            Noted, go for the older content.

            Thanks all the same :) my partner likes food like a lot, and we don’t like spending way too much money, so options are good :)

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    I don’t why everyone hasn’t stopped eating out and just cook at home these days

    $25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers

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      $25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers

      No it cannot. 10 would be a large stretch, let alone 20.

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        Let’s see… quarter pound patties are a little on the big end so assume 3oz patties, that’s 3.75 lbs of beef which is also about what 80/20 costs per pound on sale here. So a little over 14$ for the beef, buns are a buck fifty or so for an eight pack, you need three to make twenty burgers so that’s about 4.50$ more. Now you gotta put lettuce tomato pickle and onion on your twenty burgers that’s about a quarter head of lettuce, so a buck there, two or three cheap slicer tomatoes there’s two dollars, honestly fifty cents worth of pickles if you put four on each one and probably one onion is overkill so let’s round up to a whole dollar there.

        Tbh excluding the condiments a dollar twenty five or so for a burger made at home is about right. If you wanted to go overboard the probably 1/8 jar of mayo and 1/4 squirt bottle of mustard is a buck or two. Now you’re a few bucks over but it’s an all the way burger not some knuckleheads “whatever I had in the fridge” concoction.

        I used the sale price of ground beef because it’s the most expensive thing and if you’re cooking at home the most expensive component of a meal being on sale is what prompts you to make it.

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          The burgers on a real plate and all are 1/4 lbs. Not 3 oz. They are 3oz after cooking though. And the thing is, you can’t buy a quarter head of lettuce. So bump all those partials up to full units you can buy. Cause many will have the unused part thrown away. Then don’t forget the cost to cook it. Propane, or charcoal, or whatever. And you need something to clean all the dishes and utensiles… we can call the cost of the dishes and utensiles a wash though, just about everyone uses those all the time. But the grill… toss about $5 toward it. The cheap ones don’t last long, and you need a flipper and such. Now the big thing you are skipping is the time. Time to go to the store, time to prep. Time to cook, and the worst one usually… time to make a meal plan that includes this before hand, rather than just going out to eat when you haven’t planned. And in some families… one or more persons won’t eat the damn burger, so you have to make something else they will eat…

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            Don’t forget that you gotta pay the mortgage and bills to have a roof over your head and the lights on too. You don’t wanna be eating your burgers outside in the dark.

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      Ok but by the time instacart delivers my groceries to me I could have just gone out for the same cost so I just have Uber Eats go out for me so I can pay an additional premium for my premium food and still have to do the cleanup myself wait what?

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        Ok but by the time instacart delivers my groceries to me I could have just gone out for the same cost

        Did you know…

        1. You can go to the grocery store yourself, pick things out yourself, and take them home yourself? It’s cheaper, too!

        2. You can buy more than 1 meal’s worth of food at a time and then store food at home for later – you actually don’t have to make a special order for every single meal!

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    I feel like I saw this tweet but the number was like $12 burger. Which for me is now the standard.

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    The $25 burger is shit.

    Burgers, in general, are shit.

    What makes them good is the bang for buck. The concept is in their design. Some good shit between buns, allowing it to be consumed faster than a traditionally segmented dish. If you have time, wallet, and dignity, you take the dish. If not, you just get the chef to shove it between buns and serve it up.

    If a burger is not doing those things, it is not a burger. It is a shit burger. Arguably it’s so shit, it’s an expensive burger-themed dish.

    I don’t hate or love burgers. I’m just a realist.

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      Burgers, in general, are shit.

      I don’t hate or love burgers. I’m just a realist.

      Sounds like you don’t like them. Which is an affront to food everywhere.

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        No, I like them. Especially classic Red Hook street style. But I know what they are not and I know that I will only find disappointment in someone putting something on my plate at that price and try tell me it’s a burger.

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          At today’s food prices, I don’t think it’s uncommon at all for a burger to be good enough to be worth $20 if it comes with a side. Some fast food places almost cost that much now and their quality is lower than the places I don’t mind paying a fairly standard meal price for a burger.

          I get it, shit’s expensive and it sucks but it also feels so weird to me how often this drum is beaten of “burgers aren’t worth much money”. Why not? They can be very filling and delicious, and the burgers I like most have a least a semi-expensive topping or two on them.

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    And that toothed dude trying to normalise the high price of hotel rooms on the ad… Did you check? You didn’t check! You gotta check!

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      I’m not going to use Trivago, but I love that commercial. My wife and I will do grinning impressions at each other while trying not to move our faces.

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      Back in my day, you could buy a single McDonald’s cheeseburger for 39¢ on sale or 75¢ regular price. Adjusted for inflation, that’s 77¢/$1.48 now. Now they average at nearly $4.

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    23 days ago

    Also smash burgers. Why are people paying actual hamburger prices for what seem to be burnt scraps from other people’s burgers?