• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    He’s telling everyone what his plan is. War incoming by Jan 2029.

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    3 months ago

    We’ve had elections during a war before and we can do it again. Ukrainian laws don’t apply to the US.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, the law pertaining to not holding elections during martial law in Ukraine was created during another person’s presidency as well. He didn’t make that. (It stemmed from Russias invasion into Ukraine in 2014, law made in 2015). Zelensky didn’t become president until 2019.

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      3 months ago

      If the war was closer or even inside the US, it might be a different thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he could still consider it though.

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    He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.

    You think he’s deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He’s testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.

    Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It’s mandated by the constitution.

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      3 months ago

      He is a dictator. There will be no more elections. America is an autocracy.

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    3 months ago

    So did they cancel elections when US invaded Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Nah… but Trump just wants to cancel elections. He is a dictator. Since there’s nothing and no one stopping him - there’s no reason why he won’t just do it. It’s what 70 million Americans wants anyway.

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    One of the reasons he’s so desperate to end the Ukraine War is so he can collect his Nobel Peace Prize, freeing him to start his war with Mexico, and have a draft, essentially enslaving the entire young male demographic so they can’t be used against him in a Civil War.

    Then he can use the Mexican War as an excuse to suspend elections, even though we’ve never cancelled an election in our history, not even during the Civil War.

    The fact that he lept on Z’s remark about no election, illustrated that he’s been giving this a lot of thought, wondering what might work as a reasonable excuse. Dems love Zelensky, and he cancelled elections because of the war, so if America is in a war, he can cancel elections, and the Dems will have to accept it. It won’t occur to him that there’s a difference between fighting a war in a separate country, and fighting a war within your own capital city.

    It also won’t occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn’t mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.

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      It also won’t occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn’t mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.

      It boggles my mind that there are still Americans who cling to legalism as some kind of saviour, even after all the months of proof that it is absolutely no barrier to the fascists doing exactly what they want.

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    Meh, just hold one without him. Get an electoral college quorum and move the new guy in because it’s 100% state driven and he can’t change the constitution. Like an old time papacy schism, let God sort it out.

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      he can’t change the constitution

      No, but he’s sure proven that he can ignore it. And the Supreme Court will ultimately back him up. And they’ve already ruled that he can’t be charged with anything illegal he does while president (the courts won’t even punish him for crimes he was convicted of when not POTUS). And even if they don’t rule in his favor he’s shown he’s willing to ignore the courts when they don’t rule in his favor.

      If the cops and military side with him- and there is a good chance the majority in both groups are MAGAts, he’ll just have people participating in the ‘illegal/illegitimate’ elections arrested.

      If he’s still alive in 2028 he will not give up power, I guarantee it.

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        I’m not saying he’d let it happen, but this is one scenario where the constitution is perfectly clear and it’s within the states’ authority. They could even ignore the SCOTUS if they wanted, though I think even the SCOTUS would struggle to justify stopping an election.

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        Did you know that doing shit like this is how 4chan brought nazis back? Interesting little fact. Also, Poe’s Law.

        Tone indicators exist. Use them. Thanks.

        Put another way, why would you ever give refuge to those who hate? To help them convince others that there are more of them out there than there actually are?

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      I hate to say it bud, but just like everything else he has ever done, it will be swept under the rug. People will stop worrying about it. He’ll pardon anyone involved if it ever even comes close to coming out.

      All this bullshit about, “he said he’d release the Epstein files!!”

      That isn’t what I remember.

      What I remember is them asking about declassifying this and that, “yes, yeah, absolutely”. When asked about the Epstein files, “yes. Well, maybe not so much that one. I don’t want innocent people caught up in that.”

      I’m paraphrasing and doing my best to quote, but every article I read fails to mention that. I can’t even find it when I search for it.

      It was clear from before the election that he would keep those covered up.

      When he said that, people cared for about ten seconds. When he sent his people to overthrow the government, his base cared for about 10 seconds and then blamed “ainteefuh”.

      When he pardoned all of those “ainteefuh”, no one batted an eye. Even people who looked me in the eyes and swore that it mattered. “He’s gonna do it on a case by case basis.” They said. “He won’t just pardon them all, it would send a terrible message.”

      One week later, “Well, they were political prisoners. It wasn’t as bad as the news made it look.”

      FUCK Donald Trump. He can do anything he wants to do. The rest of us need to just bend over. That is reality now.

      I’m sorry.

      We’ll see how it goes in 2028. I ain’t got high hopes. I wish I could have high hopes. Reality has shown me that my high hopes are silly.

      Sorry to be all doom and gloom. You can tell me all day that the sky is neon pink, but I can see with my own eyes that it’s still blue.

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    Americans are a bunch of pussies, Trump knows that. The land of the brave have become the land of the meek and coward.

    Stop talking about civil war, just do it or shut up. Americans are pathetic…

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      The entire EU is going to mega web surveillance mode “to protect children” and not doing shit about it. We are all a bunch of bitches that take what these parasites give us. Sit the fuck down.

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        What the fuck are you talking about ? The registration thing about the pornographic site ? Are you kidding me? You are comparing this with Trump licking Putin butt and crushing most of its citizen into slavery and submission ?

        In Europe everything gets blocked and capitals get flooded with protestor for less than 0,01% of what Trump is doing.

        Wake up, americans are fat, lazy and castrated sheeps spending their times arguing about wokeness or any other nonsense. Nothing compared to Europe.

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          Exactly. 45% of Americans are morbidly obese. They’re not gonna “go without” or stick their neck out for anything if it disrupts the journey of the next burger into their mouths. Trump is their king and they love it.

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            No, we do not. I can’t help it if half my neighbors are illiterate. Wait until you find out just how many of your hate people who are not just like them. Your time is coming and I wish you the best of luck. It is awful to go through. We are no apathetic just because we can not stand against the most powerful military in the world.

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              If you see something terrible happening around you and you don’t try to stop it - you are complicit. So if you’re American, you’re complicit in enabling Trump and his crimes.

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                You know we have protests, right? They are huge but there is no media coverage. The next step is violence. The National Guard is being called in 19 more states. How do you feel about fighting the US military? I am a nerd that has never killed anything. It will not go well for me. I guess we will be in a war soon enough. I wonder will you all still be talking shit when we are forced to kill our own family members in a civil war. Even if the sensible side wins, I don’t even know what we would do with the 50% of the population that is illiterate and can not be bothered to understand anyone who is not just like them. Americans are so disappointing. What a bunch of idiots! I wish I could go.

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      yea, you know just like how he “joked” about rounding up brown people, or cut most people’s medical aid, or destroy the american soft power.

      you know, just funny things he would totally never ever do, because that would mean his voters are retarded.

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      If we’ve learned anything from 2024, it’s that this won’t fly… Sign needs to say “Looking for Unicorn to run for President, otherwise we’ll get trump again”

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        If there’s anything we learned from 2024, it’s that we need to all get behind the same person instead of not voting or voting third party instead. The game sucks, but if we don’t play it, we lose, and if we don’t play it, there’s no working towards getting any other systems in place (ranked tier voting or whatever it’s called, or any if the other even better systems), and if we son’t play it, fascism takes over.

        A divided left means the right wins.

        inb4 “YoU’rE nOt ThE lEfT” memes - that shit is part of the problem and is allowing fascism to take over, so anyone posting that can fuck off with that unhelpful shit.