• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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    10 days ago

    I may be stateside but i’m still amazed that a party that’s supposed to be truly left-leaning is putting out alt-right policies in the U.K.

  • Korne127@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they’re just doing shit all the time

    Hopefully the Green party can save UK

    • Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      The Greens are anti nuclear nimbys, they would plunge the UK into even further trouble especially with their lala land economics. Their immigration policy is also troubling as in the world we currently live in near open borders would collapse the welfare system the UK currently has & also furthers brain drain from poorer countries.

      (I am not against immigration in principle but their stated policy on the matter is absolutely nuts, Marx wrote about how we should invest in the global south and help them up to better living standards, not decemate their domestic talent pool.)

      • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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        10 days ago

        Tounchosukd check out https://greensfornuclear.energy/

        They propose changing green party policy on energy to be more practical than idealist.

        When the green party is a minor party, being idealistic is more important. It helps to guide the policy of bigger parties to prevent losing votes to them. When they are bigger or wish to be involved in government, practical reasonable policy is more important.

        Regarding immigration, open borders can be the final ideal and that can be in a phased way. There is no problem with higher immigration if there are the resources to deal with it. In fact its a benefit for the host country and the immigrant, usually. Most economic migrants come seeking work not handouts. Most economic migrants work the jobs that locals don’t want to work. It does have a downward effect on wages, though.

        Like everything, gradual change to ideal policy is usually the best way forwards.

        • Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 days ago

          Thats nice but until their MPs stop trying to block vital infrastructure & continue to complain about nuclear projects ill never vote for them. Their current policy and actions are something that mean I will never vote for them unless its explicitly changed, which a campaign group doesnt satisfy.

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            10 days ago

            That’s fair but when tories are awful for generations, Labor are centre right at this point and lib Dems are useless and trust evaporates instantly, it limits your options.

  • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    The Ministry of Justice said that possessing and publishing porn showing incest between family members and sex between step or foster relatives where one person pretends to be under-18 would be a crime.

    So it’s only a crime if they pretend to be under-18, and I haven’t seen any porno where anyone pretends to be under-18. There’s literally a category called barely 18. No one ever pretends to be under, but they do pretend to be barely-18.

    Jess Asato, the Labour MP for Lowestoft, said: ‘After many years of campaigning to ensure online pornographic content is subject to the same rules as offline content,

    When the fuck was under-18 porn ever legal? WTF? Also, isn’t the age of consent in the UK 16 years old?

    What the fuck is the point of this? Why the fuck is it needed? Who is it helping? What is it fixing? NOTHING.

    Fucking jokers… Go tax the billionaires and fix the NHS and the cost of the living crisis you cunts .

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      10 days ago

      The thing is they really don’t have grounds to ban “step” porn, but this will make their supporters think “he is going after them gross porn people” while downloading a VPN. It might have a chilling effect on porn producers, for a few minutes, but unless your porn had an actor explicitly state “I’m under 18” you are probably ok. I know this is UK based but the whole point of the law " act cool for my voters" is pretty universal.

    • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      If you read further you see this, though:

      “Step-incest pornography and that which depicts performers as children is abhorrent”

      So it’s not just if they pretend to be under 18. I think. I don’t know. I don’t think they know either. I think they’re trying to score cheap political points.

  • Bassman27@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    When banging your step mum is legal but watching a fictional video of someone else banging their step mum is illegal 🤪 welcome to the UK ladies and gentlemen.

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      It’s legal if you submit your ID to the government and have it recorded in the masterbaitorbase that you whacked off to that video. What, don’t make it weird… /s

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        12 days ago

        “Oi! Yew got a loicence fer that Stepmother? Roigt, oim gonna ave to clamp those jugs untill such toime as that courts decoide”

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      11 days ago

      To be fair, the headline is overblown since they are banning step-incest porn where one of the individuals is pretending to be underage.

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        Which begs the question of “what do they mean by pretending to be underage?” I seriously doubt any of the actors are going to claim to be underage in the video as that would get their videos removed from any mainstream platform. Another user suggested that this is based on body type meaning petite actresses are going to be the ones targeted as being “illegal” just for existing as they are despite being of age.

  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    As always, the first computers you should check when anyone tries to ban consensual porn that harms no one, are the computers of the ones proposing the ban.

  • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 days ago

    Banning porn where the actors pretend that what they’re doing is almost illegal is wild. What’s next, prison time if they say that one of the participants is just over the age of consent?

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      Nah, I want to know when they finally ban the really vile stuff. You know, all those murders on the screen in, oh I don’t know, 70% of all fictional works?

      That they seriously consider step porn as worse than murder shows that it is all about control and not about morals.

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        Talking about banning porn is just outrage porn for those for and against it. The point is to drive home surveillance state and most importantly drive discussion away from things that actually matter and the people in power desperately want people not to talk about or take notice. Modern liberal politics is very much an art of pretending to do something when actually doing nothing and just acting as the guarddog of even decaying society that has been politically hermetically sealed for the benefit of the top 1% funder class.

  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    Seriously of all the porn kink that can exist why is the one about fucking your family the most popular in certain countries? It’s just Your relatives are basically the only person you shouldn’t fuck, why them, that just seems gross and mentally unhealthy.

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      12 days ago

      Generally, the effect of all the “for children” laws and parties etc is exactly the opposite.