• Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    there’s a lot to be excited for, but

    Job requirements
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    • Active use of AI tools in daily development workflows, and enthusiasm for helping the team increase adoption

    ew.

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      3 months ago

      It’s so weird, i read this in a bunch of jon listings nowadays. How the fuck is it a requirement?!?! You should be fluent in CPP, but also please outsource your brain and encourage the team to do so as well. People are weird man.

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            It’s a publicly traded company, isn’t it? Most likely there is some investor in the CEO’s ear asking him to push this down on all staff… so they come up with bright ideas like putting silly “requirements” like this in their job descriptions as well. And in any case, AI investors are so desperate these days, chances are that they’re doing everything they can to create general LLM FOMO in a similarly desperate push to increase adoption.

            That’s what I’m guessing at least. Even to me it sounds a little like a conspiracy theory, but then again these people have a lot of influence.

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              3 months ago

              GOG is now owned by Michał Kiciński, one of the original founders. He can do whatever he wants.

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        Yeah, what does GOG know?

        The real source of wisdom is social media users who approach a topic with bad faith, outrage farming framing. I mean just look at the upvotes, and you can easily tell how right you are, it’s basically science.

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          3 months ago

          I’m sorry the only way you know how to write code is with an LLM holding your hand, but I believe if you really devote yourself to it you could learn to be a real programmer. Good luck!

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            3 months ago

            And we open the book of troll arguments to chapter 1: Ad hominem

            Keep going, it really makes you look like the rational one.

            Maybe try a red herring next, or a straw man those are always popular.

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              3 months ago

              Bruh, your only “rebuttal” was a straw man and an appeal to authority. Make a better argument before you go accusing people of being trolls.

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                Oh ok.

                ‘The job listing does not say anything about outsourcing your brain.’

                But, everyone knows that because it is obvious on the face.

                The subtext, as always, isn’t about commenting on the subject of the article or even making any kind of cognizant point that could actually be rebutted. Much like the top comment, it is just running ‘ai bad’ through an LLM so that it fits the post.

                Would you honestly say that the comment that I responded to was made in good faith?

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            3 months ago

            Why did you attack the commenter personally? Are you not able to defend the idea without stooping so low?

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              Clearly you didn’t read the conversation because they were less inaulting and dumb than the peraon they replied to. Why are you so interested in defending trolls?

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          3 months ago

          It’s lemmy. Average user is more technical than the average investor.

          Also we all know by “AI tools” they just mean chatbots, and they are a known scam by now.

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          They know some things I’ll give you that. But pattern recognition tells me for this example it’s more likely they’re wrong.

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            Maybe. We can’t say, there is zero information there that even hints at how or how much they use AI.

            It isn’t like they’re saying something specific like ‘Must be able to use Cursor, Mercurial and be able to direct multi-agent workflows’.
            That bullet point read like it is more there to include a hot keyword on job searching sites than an actual specification that describes the job.

            It’s kind of like including the word in your comment, so that you grab all of the bot upvotes and can farm outrage in a way that is objectively off-topic and unrelated to the actual post, which is about GOG moving to support Linux, not and not about AI.

            It’d be one thing if there was something specific about the job related to AI, or if anyone involved in these comments had actually said anything of substance other than, literally, ‘ew’.

            So, to my pattern recognition, this looks like every other ‘ai bad’ thread shoehorned into posts and full of toxic attacks while being light on actual discussion of the topic in the OP.

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          Have upvotes disabled so i don’t know how many upvotes it got. I just pointed out that it’s weird that it’s under the requirements, which sounds like they would require you to use training wheels. Which is normally not something you say there. I do not understand what your problem is.

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      This is a “big part” of my job. In five months what I’ve accomplished is adding AI usage to jira along with a way to indicate how many story points it wound up saving or costing. Let’s see how this plays out.

      If AI collapses as many expect it to, this job will still be there without that requirement.

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          Agreed, AI has uses but c-suite execs have no idea what they are and are paying millions to get their staff using them in hopes of finding what those uses are. In reality they are making things worse with no tangible benefit because they are all scared that someone will find this imaginary golden goose first.

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          Yeah, self-hosted open-source models seem okay, as long as their training data is all from the public domain.

          Hopefully RAM becomes cheap as fuck after the bubble pops and all these data centers have to liquidate their inventory. That would be a nice consolation prize, if everything else is already fucked anyway.

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            Unfortunately, server RAM and GPUs aren’t compatible with desktops. Also, NVidia have committed to releasing a new GPU every year, making the existing ones worth much less. So unless you’re planning to build your own data centre with slightly out-of-date gear - which would be folly, the existing ones will be desperate to recoup any investment and selling cheap - then it’s all just destined to become a mountain of e-waste.

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              Maybe that surplus will lay the groundwork for a solarpunk blockchain future?

              I don’t know if I understand what blockchain is, honestly. But what if a bunch of indie co-ops created a mesh network of smaller, more sustainable server operations?

              It might not seem feasible now, but if the AI bubble pops, Nvidia crashes spectacularly, data centers all need to liquidate their stock, and server compute becomes basically viewed as junk, then it might become possible…

              I’m just trying to find a silver lining, okay?

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      It’s sad that this is basically everywhere these days, and employers will weigh your performance review based on whether you’re using AI and how well you’re using it. It’s terrible.

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      They’ll change their tune when a few of their new workflows go rogue and auto commit prs it shouldn’t and cause build issues.

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        We’ve had multiple instances of AI slop being automatically released to production without any human review, and some of our customers are very angry about broken workflows and downtime, and the execs are still all-in on it. Maybe the tune is changing to, “well, maybe we should have some guardrails”, but very slowly.

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      I mean yes, but maybe if you can interview in good faith, that’s not what becomes part of the job.

      “I saw here that the use of AI is required. I’m willing to compromise and use AI for some workflows, but I’m skeptical of wide scale adoption. I think its potentially bad for the long term code base maintenance and stability, which is what GOG is founded on. If I find that it’s truly helpful in code writing, then I’ll continue to work it into my larger workload, but do keep in mind that the Linux community as a whole is more technical than other OS consumers and this will be bad PR.”

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      Wether you (or I) like it or not, Pandora’s box has been opened. There is no future in software development without the use of LLMs.

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        While this might be true, there’s a big difference in using LLMs for auto-completions, second opinion PR reviews, and maybe mocking up some tests than using it to write actual production code. I don’t see LLMs going away as a completion engine because they’re really good at that, but I suspect companies that are using it to write production code are realizing/will soon realize that they might have security issues and that for a human to work on that codebase it would likely have to be thrown away entirely and redone, so using slop it only costed them time and money without any benefits. But we’ll see how that goes, luckily I work at a company where managers used to be programmers so there’s not much push for us to use it to generate code.

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    I wonder what they’ve been doing in the meantime when a Linux native client was the most requested feature for so long.

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      GOG was recently bought from CDPR and is now owned by one of the co-founders, if I remember right. The focus shift towards finally giving the bare minimum of fucks about Linux likely has something to do with that.

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    I love this! I love that it’s getting more attention and cross-platform support.

    I just wish it wasn’t yet another launcher, and that all these companies got together to develop the one Open Source version everyone writes adapters for. Galaxy, at the time it was released, promised to be a way to have all of them… and then I discovered playnite (which worked better and has more options) and I cannot help but wonder if GOG’s efforts wouldn’t be better directed that way. Specially since my understanding is that the tool is undergoing a rewrite for cross-platform support.

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      Steam isn’t open source either. Bringing GoG galaxy to linux will make it easier for linux gamers to buy and install DRM free games. The games won’t be open source either, that’s not the issue here.

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    Okay, in other words: I won’t be buying any more Steam games 🐳

    Got enough stuff in my library to last until GoG starts working nicely enough on Linux 🐧

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      You don’t need GOG galaxy to install and run GOG games. In fact you shouldn’t if you care about keeping your games.

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        Currently happily using Heroic to manage GOG games. But, I still welcome GOG putting in effort to make it a smooth experience.

        You don’t need GOG galaxy to install and run GOG games. In fact you shouldn’t if you care about keeping your games.

        Disagree. The fewer barriers to using a game the better. GOG offers full DRM free downloads regardless of Galaxy existing.

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          Yes and the DRM free part only matters if you keep a copy of the installer. Galaxy doesn’t do that.

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            the DRM free part only matters if you keep a copy of the installer. Galaxy doesn’t do that.

            Why would that be relevant on Linux? WINE/Proton virtual environments are portable.

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                tar -Jcf DIY-dedicated-installer.xz /path/to/wine/bottle
                

                Now you have a very portable, highly compressed file that is easy to move around.

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      If you care this much about not using Steam, why would this be the deciding factor? I can play GoG games right now on Linux.

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      Okay, in other words: I won’t be buying any more Steam games 🐳

      So far this is only about one person and none of the ecosystem contributions to Mesa, SDL, Wine,…

      Definitively better than nothing, though!

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    My problem with gog, at least when downloading through heroic is that the download speeds as wildly slow.

    Sometimes I have the same game on epic and gog, but the gog game will take hours longer to download compared to getting it from epic servers.

    I think it’s because of my region. (South east Asia)

    Additionally, they do not have regional pricing for the country where I live, so everything is much more expensive than it is on Steam.

    So, once they offer regional pricing, I’ll switch over, even with slower download speeds.

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      In India, with 200mbps connection, I get good speed.

      Regional pricing is still a big problem, otherwise I would have bought a few more games other than Witcher 2. Most of my library was built when they gave away a lot of adult games when the CC companies were trying to ban nudity from game stores, and one time I got free trial of Amazon Prime, so I got a few more games from Amazon Luna.

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    I like Galaxy.

    Curious though, modernise it? It’s pretty new as it is, did it come out the gate as old? Ha

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      Myeah. Makes it sound like they built a new client quickly without future proofing it because the older client was hard to work with, only to create a new hard to work with pile of code. Rewriting software rarely works out to be the silver bullet you imagined it to be. In my experience taking something crappy and piecemeal make focused attempts at improving small parts at a time.

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      You have no idea what kind of technical debt is hiding below the surface. I don’t either, but any non-trivial application has some, and hasn’t Galaxy been around for a while? It tends to accumulate.

      Either way, I see it as a good sign when a company takes the time to modernize a piece of software, and moving to linux sounds like a great opportunity to do that.

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      It’s kind of sluggish. I don’t know if that is the case but it feels like an Electron application. Basically a website running in Chrome with an integrated backend.

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        I haven’t used the GOG client (might once they build a Linux one), but it can’t be worse than EGS, right?

        Steam uses Electron and manages to make it… Not great, not terrible.

        EGS runs Chromium inside Unreal Engine 4. Yes, you heard that right. A browser inside a game engine just to run a god damn game launcher.

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          Steam includes a browser for the store. But the user UI is native. And I think it’s fine.

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    C++ ? Ouch. Hard pass.

    ( Not that I would ever have been eligible or interested anyway )

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      From a consumer perspective, if the choice is between C++ or nothing, or C++ and Electron, you take the application written in C++. They were probably already using C++, and most of the mature cross-platform UI toolkits are all designed around C or C++ anyways.

      From a developer perspective… at least it’s not JavaScript.