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    You can’t be 'the richest country in the world" if 40% of your citizens are in poverty. The US “gov” is corrupt and greedy. This place truly is a shithole…

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    What makes anyone believe she’s capable of surviving eviction? Oh right, they don’t care if she dies.

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    Checked my mother’s facebook and sure enough she’s concerned about it. If there’s one thing the elderly care about it’s their social security checks. She still doesn’t understand who is responsible though.

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    If I were in that position I would do the same. Either they can’t evict me or I get sent to prison and I would be kept warm and fed, rather than the streets where I would probably starve or freeze to death.

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      They usually just release homeless people charged with petty crimes after the first hearing (24-48 hours) without bail. They can’t pay fines, for commissary, phone calls, and all that; or work, so they’re not profitable.

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    My grandad was told he’d have to give back his electric wheelchair due to some change in insurance.

    He was like “let me know what day, so I can have the news here as your tip a 100 year old ww2 veteran out of his wheelchair”

    They let him keep the chair.

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          My grandfather taught me never to dehumanize people.

          Once you start seeing people as “less than people” things go bad quick. People are people. There’s good, bad, and ugly. But they are people.

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        They’re people with a job they need to feed their families. The person who made the call wasn’t the one who made the decision.

        I was a GM for a few dollar trees and had to have people kicked out for stealing toothache medicine. I know how bad toothaches can be, I understand they are homeless, but I had a job that needed to feed my family.

        The world sucks not the people in it. We are all just slaves to this system we’ve built.

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          You can make the same argument for ICE, so I won’t buy it but I understand the pressure

          I would just turn a blind eye if I saw someone stealing medicine

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            Well if it makes you feel any better I quit that job and got baker acted 4 times in a month for suicude attempts. So I guess we agree lol

            My elbow will never bend right again because of that fight with the cops.

            Before that I took in 6 homeless people to live with me while they got on their feet.

            Have you ever held a man who drank himself to death because he was dieing of aids ? I cried the whole time to the hospital with him.

            So… what exactly have you done to help the cause again? Aside from your chair sitting I mean?

            Because ive helped so many people the universe won’t allow me to die. And boy howdy have I tried lots of ways. Life clings to me like a parasite.

            You want to talk about ice? Have you ever sheltered an immigrant? I have.

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      I bet the people were like “smart alec”

      I’m like “you go grandpa show them who’s boss”

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        He was a tough old man. He had all the patience in the world for us kids but none for adults who should know better.

        His mom died in the dust bowl… from dust inhalation. Then he went to Italy to fight facists. Then came home and joined the board of health and helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.

        Try he think they’re going to take his wheelchair? Come and take it!

        Oh he also had his name legally changed so he wouldn’t be named after Robert E Lee anymore. He wasn’t a fan of slavery. He also wasn’t a fan of baby boomers. Called them “the me me me generation “

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          helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.

          We have lots of rabbis in America, someone should warn the Jewish population that there’s a vaccine for them! /s

          (I’m pretty sure you mean “rabies” but yours is a hell of a lot funnier)

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            Oh shit… he had a hat that said Ww2 veteran we never asked “what side”!!! This changes everything!!! At least he was working on a cure tho… joke obviously.

            Spelling isn’t my strong point. I’m a salesman and a great “talker” but spelling escapes me

            Jokes aside rabies (that right) is a terrible way to go. It was a bigger deal back in the day. In some countries it’s still a big worry.

            (So many edits) I’m imagining now my friend Zack who was Jewish walking thru the woods “is this free meat? Well can’t let it go to waste… wait why do I feel like god has left me all the sudden”

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        Oh I forget the best story because I just told someone earlier today. He had to pull him out of the nursing home because he kept bullying the younger trump supporters with “ I killed the Nazis once. I can kill them again if I have to”

        My dad was a trump supporter up until he died but he voted democrat those years out of respect for my mom’s father.

        I swear my grandfather had the presence of dumbledore from harry potter. Like him or don’t but you can’t help but respect him.

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            DONT fuck trump supporters. It reminds me of the joke “if you go over to a persons house and don’t see any books… don’t fuck them”

            Same with trump stuff. I’m asexual myself but I hear sex is a strong motivator for most men.

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    “refusing to leave”

    Where, specifically, did they expect her to go? Being thrown out on the streets at 93 is effectively a death sentence.

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        Reminder that socialist countries like Cuba or the USSR have historically de jure and de facto guaranteed employment, with worse economic conditions and over a half century ago. Unemployment is a capitalist construct and we can do better than that.

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          i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation.

          what’s the point in having exponential productivity increase if we are all still expected to work full time or starve.

          we could probably just set up a 20 hour week maximum and the economy would still run. just with less profits for the 1%, but they can go fuck themselves with syphilitic cacti.

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            i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation

            That’s up for debate, but my point was about work being a guaranteed universal right, not about it being forced at gunpoint.

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    The most disturbing part of this is, she made it to 93, and wasn’t able to pay rent. Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

    Like, she’s not even just retired, she’s elderly. The “Golden years” of wearing a diaper and needing a walker, kind of elderly.

    Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home, the fact that it got to the point where she was hauled off to jail in an orange jumpsuit and cuffs should not have happened. Someone should have stopped and said, “are we really going to try to send a 93 year old to jail?” And that should have been where it stopped. Because that’s not something you do to a 93 year old for missing a few rent payments.

    America is cracked man. Should not have gotten there. What the actual fuck.

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      Social Security was supposed to float them after the time they could make a living. That’s drying up faster than water in a desert Nestle is siphoning from.

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      Man, I only retired 3 years ago, for medical reasons, and with only just enough money. In that 3 years, essentially everything has doubled in cost. In another 3 years it will probably double again. So, it’s pretty easy to see me being in a similar situation eventually, although at least I do own my home. Many retired people on fixed incomes are feeling the squeeze…

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        I’m still working and things are getting more expensive faster than I’m getting raises. I don’t own a home and doubt I ever will be able to afford it so my only retirement option is a shotgun.

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      Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home

      They had her shit on the curb by the time the squad car rolled off.

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      The people living in America exist solely to serve the needs and wants of the oligarchy. If you’re not working to make them more entrenched, you are useless and they would really prefer you just die.

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      Yup.

      American here.

      As far as I can tell we are totally fucked. As in, if I was smart, I’d be finding a way to get citizenship elsewhere before I get too old.

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      Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

      No. Everytime there is, conservatives cry antichrist and pull Usain Bolt shit trying to get it repealed.

      They’re about as close as you get to being the literal Sith… outside of North Korea, I guess.

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    This is what republicans seem to want. Thinking THEY will never be in such a situation so they have nothing to worry about.

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    I dont understand why you handcuff people who clearly are not a danger to anyone.

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    Trigger Warning: Now before anybody comments that I’m evil for this, I’m not saying I would do it, or that I condone it but that I would understand why someone would, and could totally see it becoming an issue. Especially with copycats and such.

    That being said I could totally see people getting to the point of hopelessness and going out by suicide by cop, either directly going after police, or whatever mega-corp, or landlord or whatever they perceive to put them in that position. Obviously a 93 year old woman likely doesn’t have the strength to pull a trigger but as this inequality issue continues to rise and more and more people are losing hope due to issues outside their control dangerous and scary things are likely to happen. Just like we never solved bullying and it led to school shootings, if we don’t solve inequality, I’m afraid that mass shootings are going to go up.

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      What you’re describing is basically how active shooters are born, including school shooters. And this is also why there are more active shooters in the US than in the next 50+ countries combined.

      Inequality leads to crime. A system that exploits citizens at every step leads to active shooters. These phenomena are so well known and documented, it’s physically impossible for the current and previous 10 American governments not to be and have been aware of the issue. They must have simply deemed it an acceptable cost.

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        Absolutely agreed. But the arms industries are worth more and have more influence than American lives. Including children. We live in the cyberpunk 2077 prequel.

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      could totally see it becoming an issue. Especially with copycats and such

      What exactly would be the “issue”, even if there were “copycats”, with everyone having a place to live?

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        You’re missing the point. If everyone had a place to live comfortably, there wouldn’t be the hopelessness that leads to such things. But logically as hopelessness goes up, as does crime, including major crimes. I think you came into this wanting to be mad about what I wrote, and got mad about it despite agreeing with me.

        Edit: or you’re a troll and intentionally taking the message wrong to start shit.

        Edit 2: God damnit. I didn’t consider option 3. You’re either AI or too stupid to read. Because that response doesn’t actually make any sense in context to what I wrote. I hope it’s 1 or 2 because 3 is embarassing to me, but seemingly more likely.

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        But no, repression, inequality, suffering and violence are preferred because their dads said that was the right way. “My dad worked in the coal mines from the time he was 18 until he died of black lung at 52. If it was good enough for him it’s good enough for me”

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    So you mean they will house her only in a more expensive and more dehumanizing way.

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    But being poor is a crime! She could have invested in crypto and gotten rich off of dumping it, but noooooo!

    She had to “RrTiRe” and “EnJoY hEr wInTeR YeArS”. Lazy layabout. She’ll learn the value of HARDWORK once she’s making license plates, and maybe then she can pull herself up by her bootstraps by investing those $2 a day and earning her keep in about- oh, say a 100 years?

    People live to be 200, right? I don’t know, I’m not good with numbers.

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      Corporations are people. Its an excuse to be a dick.

      A person made the call to evict her, not a corporation.

      A person then told her, “nothing he could do, it’s out of my hands.”

      Then another person cuffed her and dragged her out. “Nothing he could do, he was just upholding the law.”

      “Wir haben das nicht gewust.”

      “Befehl ist befehl.”

      That didn’t hold up in Nürnberg and it still doesn’t.

      Don’t do evil shit. Resign. Or be evil and fucking own it. “Yes. I did that and I’m proud of it. I got my bonus, fuck that old tart.”

      Do not dare to hide behind “the corporation” or “the law”.

      You.

      You did that.

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      all corporations should be split into different smaller companies which would be given to the workers who would collectivize them. seriously!

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    Every single assisted living facility in the United States would do the same thing. They are businesses designed to strip every last bit of wealth before we die, they do not give a shit about their residents customers.

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      Yeah but have you ever tried to care for aging parents outside of a retirement community, sucks all your time, money, and energy leaving nothing else for the rest of your family. End of life care is a great place to extract wealth if you’re heartless. People are their most scared and vulnerable, they’ll pay anything to feel normal for just a little while longer

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        Yes, my mother has advanced Parkinson’s and I was her primary caretaker for years before we finally had to move her into assisted living. I know very well how ill-equipped our society is for elder care.

        People always talk about how it takes a village to raise a child, but we rarely talk about the village required to care for our elders.

        Personally, I would rather kill myself than end up in a facility like my mom is in.

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          I think it says a lot when people remark they would rather be dead than in a assisted care facility. Something is clearly wrong with our system.

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            The sad part is, it’s one of the best facilities around in a very HCOL area. We pay $8000 per month just for room and board. When she needs more care that price will increase. You’d think with ~100 residents all paying at least that much that the place would be really good, right? But the staff is all paid minimum wage so they can’t hire people to provide the basic services they advertise, like transportation. The meals are all made from institutional wholesale ingredients like liquid “eggs”, frozen meat and vegetables, and red delicious apples.

            My mom has been burgled by staff and ignored by caregivers while she was stuck on the toilet because the understaffing issue is so bad.

            Most of the staff are great people, but the owners are making so much money that they could breed like rabbits and their great-great-grandchildren would never have to lift a finger in their lives.

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            Well like, what other options are there? Most retirement communities have been bought out by Atria or Life Care Services, stripped of anything that made them special and unique, then had their prices jacked way up. For elderly people they can either A) spend the money all the they could give as inheritance, and take on debt to live in the only places capable of supporting you, or B) kill yourself, give your children as much inheritance as possible and hope that you making that decision means your kids might not have to do the same when it’s their turn.

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              The best option is not to allow corporations to buy up and run assisted living centers to maximize profit. It is apparent that the US government should also be subsidizing and highly monitoring these facilities. They should have strict requirements for activities and care, no more laissez-faire regulating.

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                It’s the best option, and if you can figure out a way to do it I wish you all the luck in the universe. I won’t be holding my breath. No offense.

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                  When I was in college I had a cohort and one of my colleagues was from an Eastern European country. He was married and had a few kids. He was trying to find a good daycare and came to me very confused.

                  He said that daycare where he was from was free and very high quality. They had set curriculum, good food, and the government checked in weekly to make sure the facilities were run correctly. He asked why all the US daycares were run down, no curriculum, poor food, poor worker pay, and also extremely expensive.

                  Here is a guy from a country we would probably look down upon just flabbergasted by our shitty daycare system. It was a real eye opener for me. Needless to say it is entirely possible to improve these facilities.

                  I think you are right though, unless we start trying to fix these problems holding our breathe is not going to help.