From what I’m reading, the troubles should start to pick up now; harbors being quieter, truckers not having work, … Are any shortages noticeable yet?
ETA:

Source: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trump-is-a-virus
Businesses have been filling their inventories. That’s ending now. Economic pain in terms of job losses should accelerate now. It will still take up to a few weeks before inventories run empty, and the full impact hits consumers. Even a full reversal of Trumpism couldn’t prevent knock-on effects that last into next year.
Regardless of whether you think something catastrophic will happen tomorrow, next month, next year or never, it’s a smart plan to have an emergency stash of shelf-stable food and drinking water to last 72 hours per person in your household for whatever natural or manmade disaster.
My grandma’s spirit would haunt me from the dead if it found out I only had 72 hours of food in my home.
This! I don’t even live in a disaster prone area, but I always make sure we’d be fine without power/water for a few days at least.
it’s a smart plan to have an emergency stash of shelf-stable food and drinking water to last 72 hours per person in your household for whatever natural or manmade disaster.
I have plenty of food sitting around, but realistically, 72 hours without food isn’t going to be an issue for an non-infant who doesn’t have some kind of serious medical conditions. Probably make most people in the US healthier.
I’ve fasted for over a week for the hell of it, and people have gone much longer. This guy did it for over a year.
Water is a much-less-forgiving resource.
frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation
I got a passport, and am wrapping up a degree in nursing.
It’s not necessarily my intention to jump ship as soon as I graduate, but knowing that it’s an option will be a great comfort.
Other than that, I stopped eating eggs.
We always need more nurses in Sweden, I imagine it’s the same in other countries too.
How about generic guys with no special talents in particular but the gift of gab?
For Sweden specifically that could be tricky at the moment with our current government.
Come to Canada, we want and need nurses!
Do you have dual citizenship? Just because you have a passport doesn’t mean you can just flee the country forever.
You don’t need citizenship to live in a country, just a work visa
Ya but that’s not an easy thing to get for most countries. A lot of that depends on your career background. They don’t take anyone.
America has officially entered the list of shithole countries. Our infamous American arrogance will not help us. No country is going to want our refugees unless they are wealthy or have an in-demand skill. Even then, they will only want to cherry pick the best of the best.
In addition, we will be 2nd class citizens in any country we land in, and will be treated with the same disdain, discrimination, and abuse as immigrants are treated in America.
Better to stay here, and use your energy to fight to take our nation back. Fascism has generally turned out to be unsustainable in the long term, but it requires constant, sustained resitance to dislodge.
The silver lining is that fascist leaders usually face an ignominious, violent end. Let that be your motivation to resist.
I agree with the idea of staying an upholding your values, but as an Italian, let me tell you people can be pretty ambivalent about people from countries like ours, just as I happen to be seen as either a lazy criminal or a poet cook navigator with nothing in-between, you guys can be seen as dumb and vulgar rednecks or cool rock’n’roll cowboys.
No - that strikes me as an end game move. It’ll enable me to cross the border, and if shit hits the fan that’ll be good enough to then figure out the next steps.
I would need to do WAY more research on prospective point-B’s before diving into dual citizenship.
That said, I don’t really know shit about expatriating, so if anything I just said stands out as glaringly wrong, please do school me!
Dual citizenship is probably a bit premature, I doubt you need to concern yourself with that just yet. I would probably have a few places picked out as likely options for a work visa though, after doing some basic research into pay grade vs cost of living and how much you like/would fit in with the local culture.
You probably already have a vague idea of which countries you might enjoy living it.
You’re right about this - as a US / Canadian dual citizen, getting a new citizenship is quite an ordeal and not everyone who applies is approved. The nursing experience you mentioned in a separate comment might be enough to qualify for a work permit and then permanent residence. I know that various provincial governments up here are quietly putting in immigration policies that severely cut immigration numbers, but focus heavily on recruiting healthcare workers.
Going to Germany as a nurse should be possible. You would need to do some language courses and handle some bureaucracy but we have a big nurse shortage.
language
That is definitely an intimidating step. I speak a little Spanish, but was never particularly good at it, and that’s hailed as one of the ‘easy’ languages. …'course, the stakes are a tad higher now than when I was studying that stuff in highschool…
I have read testimonies from other people who have gone through economic/political instability and hardship. What i got out of it is that prepping will help for a week to a month maybe. But after that preppers just feel dumb after that as all that work didn’t mean much long term.
The only thing that universally matters is having community ties. Unfortunately… USA aren’t very community friendly or even have the opportunity to create strong local bonds. As all community events are during work hours so only retired people part take in those.
I feel awful for the genuinely good people living there. But to all of the people that either voted for this or sat back and did nothing to prevent this: I genuinely, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart hope that you fucking suffer like never before.
Don’t worry the entire world will suffer not just the people you don’t like in the US.
This has certainly been true in the past, but I’m seeing the next few of these will affect the rest of the world less than it did in the past. Other nations are decoupling from USD as a reserve currency so they are a bit more insulated from US economic swings. Further, China will have extra manufacturing capacity since the USA is effectively blocked for many of its goods. This means that China will (likely already is) finding other markets in the world for these goods and others producible from the excess manufacturing capacity. Increased supplied will mean reduced prices everywhere else in the world besides the USA.
Worldwide petroleum prices will likely fall because of reduced demand from the USA. Food prices may be one place prices rise with the reduced production from the ongoing war of Russian aggression in Ukraine, and the voluntary reduction of food imports from the USA in response to USA tariffs on imports. So this will place a strain on non-USA based food producing countries.
I say all of this as an American appalled at what trump is doing to the USA and the world.
“May you have the day you voted for.”
Well, the assholes in charge over here dismantled FEMA, a national disaster relief organization. And there are some pretty Republican regions that regularly need its assistance from hurricanes and other weather disasters.
I’m waiting to see whether the American resistance (if it can be called that) succeeds, and what they do if they succeed, before I take that position, but fair enough.
Not shortages yet, but steep price increases.
I have dropped some items from my normal grocery list because of ramping prices. Eggs and avocados were first, but it’s expanding to other things now.
I have some hobby projects I want to do that would require buying new hardware; those prices are going up so that is on hold until further notice.
I work from home 95% of the time and do much of my evening/weekend socializing and hobbies within walking distance of my home, so I could drop my driving and fuel consumption very low.
I bought a $30 renter-friendly bidet kit so I am way less exposed to another toilet paper shortage.
I was going to buy a new car, probably a RAV4 internal hybrid, within the next 1-2 years but that is completely up in the air now. My current car is functional, just old, and I would continue driving it rather than swap to an inferior and dangerous American car like Tesla.
Buy less, budget conscientiously, wait to see what happens. Exactly what Trump doesn’t want but which anyone with half a brain cell knew would happen.
How much are avocados where you are? They’re still $1 each here which is too bad.
They doubled over the last ~week at my grocery store. Typically 88 cents to $1, today $1.99.
Dang.
We’ll see if they stay up or if it was a minor swing due to, I don’t know, short term short supply. I was reading they are an interesting bellweather because of their very short shelf-life and west-to-east shipping path.
They’re one of my favorite lunches while hiking. Good fats. Easy. No refrigeration needed.
at the moment not enough to cause panic buying or draw significant media attention. Select goods have begun to creep up in price, and freight industry reports show projected decreases in demand, but not really seeing it yet.
Most aren’t even aware that this is coming.
I can’t wait to watch all the Trump-suckers loose their shit when they find out it’s Trump’s fault. If they can actually comprehend it as true, that is.
narrator: they did not
They’ll just say it’s Biden’s fault…
A large portion of the rest are in denial. So many people can only learn through the lens of their own experience
Prepare? I’m poor lol
Learn to cook beans and rice from scratch. Stock up on them in bulk. Emergency food packs can be bought from $45 and up depending on how many you have to feed and for how long you’re planning to need it.
I’ve converted all my investments into girl scout cookies because they (1) are high value And can be traded for goods and services; and (2) can be eaten when no food is available. 😉
girl scout cookies … are high value
I hate that this is how you found out, but…
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Fudge-Mint-Cookies-10-Oz/11997740
Fools gold!
We’re not. All of the panic I’ve seen is on Lemmy. I haven’t seen it anywhere else, even reddit.
Huh. Haven’t actually seen panic on Lemmy. I only see it on social media accounts of economists and logistics people.
Damn experts, what do they know?
Not surprisingly, Vance said words exactly to that effect during the vice-presidential debate. No one can say that they did not see this coming.
The sentiment on r/wallstreetbets is that “we’re cooked”, but the market is still “running on hopium” that Trump will fold.
They kicked us off of Reddit, dude.
You’re posting from a tankie instance. I think there might be more to the story. Or not, reddit is indeed fickle, I once caught a perma ban for saying that the pedophile mohammed raped a 9 year old and was a pedophile.
So who knows?
This you?
Fuck off

Yes. That’s me.
No. I won’t be fucking off. I might switch to mbin at some point, but I’ll still be here
.world is not the tankie instance but they leak out sometimes. Youre thinking of .dbzer and .ml
I’m an American citizen self deporting.
Honestly I have a lot of ethical distress over my decision. I’m using savings to power through a couple months hardship here then moving to Sweden to see if my second attempt at college can stick this time. I’m going to buy some essentials like toilet paper, flour, canned tomato goods, while they’re still readily available. Not too much though since I just need enough to make it work while I’m here and I want to limit my panic buying impact
As a chronic procrastinator, I ain’t doing shit.
This hits home. I was just here pondering if I’d take meaningful action given forewarning but doubt myself.
My company layed off the newest hire, and bought $50k of materials we need for R&D for the next year and a half. Im in the process of buying a duplex instead of a single family as a hedge, so my cost of living will be low enough to survive on my wife’s part time salary if we can keep a renter. I will be planting food producing trees and bushes, and building garden boxes after close, and learning canning.
Know your communities, people. That’s the prep you need.









