• ch00f@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    “Trade it”

    TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

    (Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

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      16 days ago

      Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on

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      16 days ago

      Trade it in.

      In other words, someone may be willing to pay you for parts, rather than you just getting nothing for it (recycling).

      They are not going to recommend you use an alternative OS, and probably not because they’re worried about market share, but because they then have some responsibility for every time a person fucks up a Linux install.

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    16 days ago

    Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I’ll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

    Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn’t be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It’s even higher specced than many other ‘supported’ chips.

    MS apparently just decided I hadn’t spent enough money lately. Well now I won’t - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

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      16 days ago

      Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven’t had a single problem with any of my games - I’m getting better framerates, too.

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        16 days ago

        Any reason you went with fedora? I’ve been partial to fedora for a decade, but last I knew it wasn’t recommended for a daily driver given the upstream fuckery from redhat.

        Asking cuz I’m about two weeks from kicking win10 in the dick and moving to alma or something.

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          16 days ago

          I’m actually using Nobara, but it’s not very popular so I just say Fedora in day-to-day conversation. From my understanding, Fedora-based distros play better with Nvidia GPUs.

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            16 days ago

            Best of luck to you my friend. Like I said, fedora was my go-to for years, and I regularly fought against the Nvidia drivers and kept going back to windows.

            I’m running AMD now, so I’m hoping my experience is better than it was when I was using nvidia

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              16 days ago

              I’m responding to you, but this is more for others to see since you moved to AMD.

              I used Nvidia cards for many years on Linux and only recently switched back to AMD. The main issues I ran into with Nvidia were related to driver updates breaking things rather than things not working in general. So, I eventually found that holding Nvidia drivers to versions that worked without issues was the best bet and only updating them on occasion after they had been out for a bit and the consensus was that they weren’t breaking stuff.

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                13 days ago

                Just to make things easier on others (or myself if the AMD drivers have similar issues), how would one go about holding the driver at a specific version?

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                13 days ago

                Just to make things easier on others (or myself of the amd drivers have similar issues), how would one go about holding the driver at a specific version?

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          Everyone should use the most polished, solid and up to date distros. Opensuse and Fedora. There is no fucked up. Fedora is a serious project that Red hat uses to base their distro on. And Opensuse is German engineering. Serious is not even the correct word here, they are state of art distros.

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            13 days ago

            Good to know, thanks! Like I said, I’m going to be diving back into Linux in the near future, so I’ll be looking into the best distro to try.

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      16 days ago

      I’m trying but the girlfriend refuses. She watches YouTube on the TV and does everything else on her phone; literally only uses the laptop to play The Sims 4 (which her 1080ti can handle just fine), yet she’s convinced that she will need a brand new gaming machine with a 4090/5090 as soon as Microsoft dumps WIn10. She’s afraid that she’ll completely break the OS if she switches to Linux. (Which is plausible, though unlikely.

      I’m hoping she’ll change her mind as soon as she realizes just how much more GPUs cost these days, especially mobile ones.

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        16 days ago

        Create a live USB stick and demonstrate it to her, without deleting Windows. Bonus points if you rice the fuck out of it with some kawaii shit for your GF and make Sims 4 work with Wine.

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          16 days ago

          Wine need not apply. That’s old school. Sims 4 works great in proton. Basically just install steam and the rest is handled.

          Better yet, install bazzite as your distro, gaming works out of the box.

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        16 days ago

        Games aren’t much of an issue anymore, it’s the other software that keeps me from switching

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            16 days ago

            Nah, the real problem is people willing installing rootkits on their computer because anticheat is somehow very important…

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    16 days ago

    I mean, what do you expect them to say?

    “Time to install Linux, here’s how you chose a kernel:”

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      16 days ago

      Correction: it’s MY last Windows release. I invite it to be yours too.

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    15 days ago

    “Trade it in or recycle it” basically means “your best bet to solve this problem is to pass it on to someone else, who will pass it on to someone else, and so on until it arrives at landfill”.

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    15 days ago

    I love how in a world where we banned straws we are somehow OK with Microsoft pushing people to recycle their old but otherwise adequate system for what, to the vast majority of people, are some paper thin security advantages.

    Anybody who asks me about Windows 10’s EOL date will be introduced to the option of using Linux before i’ll help them select a replacement system. Especially if they literally only use a browser there really is no reason to go through hoops or spend money to stick with Windows.

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      15 days ago

      We’ve lost to climate change already. Can’t even get people to wear a mask. Asking them to completely change their polluting lifestyles? Impossible. What we do instead is ban plastic straws to pretend were doing something. Reality doesn’t matter, just how people feel.

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        We very clearly haven’t already lost, otherwise the world would have ended. You and I wouldn’t be having this discussion, we’d be cobbling together what bits of food we could to survive.

        Stop this mindset, it’s destructive and foolish - human beings have the capability of overcoming this. If people with this mindset were asked to dive into the cooling tanks at the Chernobyl incident - we, as a species, would actually be fucked.

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          We have. Our ship’s course is set. The systems we have in place are too entrenched in their destruction. I remember when the Paris agreement was signed and everyone was talking about how we need to cut emissions now or never. What did we do as a species? Increase energy demands across the board and keep the status quo, and those demands just keep rising higher and higher.

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        15 days ago

        Please explain how malware would get on my laptop now in a way that it didn’t, oh, say, in the last 12 years?

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          Considering you stopped receiving security updates years ago, any kind of malware developed since then is going to have a field day with you.

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            That’s amazing, it’s had years to have its field day. Where is it, please?

            You guys understand you have to actively install malware and viruses, right? It’s not like on TV with a skull and crossbones appearing on the monitor.

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              You’re just making yourself a target. People go after low-hanging fruit, and people who haven’t had security updates in a decade are top of the list.

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                14 days ago

                Again, how will this happen? This is just technical illiteracy, my friend.

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                  I don’t know what the fuck you do on the internet… Are you really trying to suggest people don’t get hacked like this? People have lost millions in crypto from shit like that. I know you don’t care about crypto or whatever, but it doesn’t make the situation less real…

                  Some people have things of value on their internet-connected devices. It’s just foolish to not stay up to date with security updates.

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    15 days ago

    I want to ditch windows so bad, but I can’t run any autodesk products on Linux atm… Revit, Autocad… Sad noises

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        Haha I would love to. But I would have to get all my teams - and there are many - to switch. I also tried FreeCAD. It’s OK for hobbyists but it’s unusable for architecture… C’est la vie