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      It had no specific rules for it or against it. It was just a secret rule that you could upload on it. Now it’s official ig.

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    Is this old news? There’s been massive dicks on there for ages.

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    As much as X can get bent The eradication of human sexuality from mass media culture is a clear sign of intense rot at the heart of our civilization. How can such a fundamental element of thr human experience can be so conspicuously absent for almost all art and media. A clear sign of the omnipresent censure and purge of dissenting opinion in our supposedly “free” society.

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      How can such a fundamental element of thr human experience can be so conspicuously absent for almost all art and media.

      What are you talking about? Heaps of movies have sex scenes. Heaps of songs are about sex. There are heaps of books and other stories about sex. The internet is packed with sex stuff of all kinds. Advertisements in the street are obvious implicitly or explicitly about sex. So how can you say that sex is ‘conspicuously absent from almost all art and media’? Are you looking?

      Allowing explicit porn on twitter doesn’t make it ground-breaking in any way. It just changes the tone and target audience of the site, such that you will now see porn inserted into basically any conversation or topic.

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        I should have clarified, freely available mainstream media and art. I don’t watch ads so I can’t say for sure, I don’t consider advertising to be part of art and media, more like a form of pollution on top.

        From what I’ve senn tge most you might get are suggestive allusions to sex. It’s just not treated as the everyday part of life that it is.

        By comparison, it is entirely overshadowed by violence and gore.

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        Every new game that is released with a character dressed in even a slightly sexually suggestive way results in a rabid meltdown from braindead Twitter users. Payment processors like PayPal are forbidding the use of their services for NSFW content due to pressure from fundamentalist christian organizations like Exodus Cry, under the guise of “child safety”

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          it’s not arbitrary… there’s this whole thing with sexual harassment and a hostile workplace that makes porn a bad idea for a large diverse team….

          some reactions definitely go too far but it’s not arbitrary

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            You make a good point, it"s definitly part of the outline of that social wound.

            Some people are so fragile and the topic that they consider mere exposure as an attack or harrasement.

            And whoever is most fragile seems to the decider for everyone, of what is forbidden.

            Really a powerful position to be in …

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                The fact that someone’s gender makes a difference is part of that “social wound” they mentioned.

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                  of course it makes a difference. that’s how power dynamics work. i think it’s very rich to complain about people being fragile while demonstrating peak fragility that you can’t just show porn to people who don’t consent to it.

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              i don’t really see being too fragile as a powerful position….
              it has definitely been abused by people pretending to be fragile… but the amount of very hostile, sexually aggressive people at many workplaces has made it this way, not the fragile people.
              work is a place people are dependent on to make money to survive, with people they have to see every day.
              a good friend of mine was a manager and very mildly cussed at a worker when they made a mistake… not even at her but just cussed as he was walking off….
              she went to h.r., said it was because he hated lesbians (he doesn’t, has a lesbian aunt and several lesbian friends).
              they fired him after ten years of being a good worker, working overtime or filling in whenever asked… never being late….
              just fired him over one person saying one thing.
              everyone else backed him up, but they didn’t care.
              ….
              unions are pretty good, btw.

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                anecdotes aren’t data. even if this is true, which i don’t believe it is to be honest, it pales in comparison to the innumerable discriminatory practices towards women and all sorts of minorities. also even in your own friend’s probably distorted version of the events he’s in the wrong.

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            Aren’t society’s norms arbitrary? There are certainly societies where showing tits is normal.

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              I know what you are saying but usually “arbitrary” is at the individual level, not at societal level.

              E.g. laws being arbitrarily enforced but you’d never describe the law itself as arbitrary.

              Your point is well illustrated with the Joseon trend in Korea in the late 1800’s. But that was more societal than individual.

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      The eradication of human sexuality from mass media culture is a clear sign of intense rot at the heart of our civilization

      In what way though? We see all kinds of sexual and suggestive displays everywhere in media because “sex sells”. I guess you and the people up voting you don’t use Instagram, which is essentially what Twitter is now trying to emulate via this rule change.

      How can such a fundamental element of thr human experience can be so conspicuously absent for almost all art and media.

      But it’s not? Every visual form of art has some kind of sexualized content. Go literally anywhere (online or off) and it’s there. The reason why the more overt and pornographic content is behind NSFW is because it’s titillating. Experiencing prolonged bouts of arousal is mentally exhausting and often leads to depression or worsens it, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10813043/#:~:text=Specifically%2C a higher and hyperstable,3%2C7%2C8].

      It’s why looking at porn all day is not mentally relaxing, necessarily. Some people also find overt sexual displays distracting as all they want to do is focus without being stimulated into another direction. That said, there are plenty of video games, movies, art forms, music experiences which explore human sexuality. They’re fun because it’s stimulation at a time when you’re in the frame of mind for it.

      I feel a lot of times when people talk about “something is like this” what they’re really saying “my experiences show that something is like this”, and that to me just indicates they need to broaden their experiences.

      We’re missing sex positivity in modern US society with respect to women’s reproductive rights and acceptance of different sexual orientations or gender identities. We’re not missing sex or sexualized content.

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        You are misunderstanding the meaning of the paper you linked; it is not referring to sexual arousal but rather the psychological state of hyperarousal aka the fight-or-flight response. These are two very different meanings of the term “arousal” and are not at all interchangable.

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          I am not misunderstanding it, heightened emotions = arousal, and sexual stimulation leads to heightened emotions

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            You are misunderstanding it. Don’t worry though, yours is a common misunderstanding! So common, in fact, that the Wikipedia article on arousal starts with, “not to be confused with sexual arousal”.

            In psychology, “arousal” is a technical term and not all arousal causes harm. In fact, many forms of arousal are quite healthy. Being awake, for example, is a type of arousal and most people stay awake for 16+ hours per day without issue.

            Now, you are correct that sexual arousal is a type of arousal, but there is no reason to believe that sexual arousal would cause the pathology of arousal that is discussed in the paper. In fact, the specific section you linked refers to “hyperstable arousal regulation” which refers to a tendency for a person’s level of arousal to remain too constant over time rather than varying appropriately to the situation they are in. And on top of all that, causation is not indicated. There is no reason to believe that the arousal is causing the depression rather than the other way around.

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              I know :) I’ve done research in affective psychology. I was connecting the thread from arousal (in general) to sexual arousal. I think my follow up post shows that logic in a pithy one liner

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                Got it and thanks for clarifying. I also amended my last comment since I had a bit of extra time to read the study more thoroughly. I’d be quite interested to see which way the causation goes. Although I suspect that hyperstable arousal may be a symptom of depression rather than a cause of depression, I have heard that the intense adrenaline rush of skydiving may alleviate depression for some people. To me this suggests there may be a way to break out of that hyperstable arousal state by intentionally reaching a state of extremely high arousal, perhaps ending a bout of depression early.

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      Yeah, I’ll always give credit where credit is due, and no matter how much I detest Musk, this is a legitimately good move and I fully endorse it.

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          Yea but Greco-Roman paganism didn’t treat women as owned property of men like the Abrahamic faiths do. It’s not necessarily religion in total, it’s that the current dominant religions are extremely controlling and more about self-oppression for eventual reward than guidelines for a good life like most pagan sects

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            Greco-Roman paganism didn’t treat women as owned property of men like the Abrahamic faiths do

            Yes they fucking did lmao. Greek women had absolutely no rights

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            right, which means it isn’t “religion” as a concept which is the problem.

            Also, sexuality is pretty commonly open in Hinduism, which is a pretty huge current religion.

            It isn’t a problem with “religion”.

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              I was going to say, isn’t the Kama Sutra a Hindu text? We have a bunch of sex positions that may have been lost to time if it weren’t for the Hindu religion.

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        So maybe just an old tradition that hasn’t died out yet ? A sharp edged piece of societal flotsam that we’re still dealing with ?

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          His only religion appears to be financial technofeudalism. I guess the religious fundamentalists aren’t lucrative enough for him to enforce their commandments.

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      Eradication? If anything, streaming services turn the sex dial to 11 for a while now. It’s as if they won’t greenlight a new show unless it has a certain amount of sex and nudity scenes.

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        I’m not really including paywalled media in this. I’m not subscribed so I really don’t see any of what you mention. What I’m seeing in my browser windows is almost completely sterile. The only place I see sex, is places that are ONLY about sex. There is no meaningful mixing.

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    Just don’t call anyone ‘cis’. That’s a crime punishable by ~~death ~~ account deletion.

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    So since Deviantart, Imgur, and Tumblr died by banning porn, he’s hoping X will come back to life!?!?

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      No thanks, the fediverse is better at it, with way less nazis and tankies, those that are here are in their own containment zones.

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    Can’t wait for three days from now, when they roll that back in a panic.

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    so he fucked up the whole platform so he has to raise money with porn? not suprised to be honest

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    I thought they were already allowed… There’s tons of adult performers already on there showing full frontal nudity and pornography.

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    TIL Grimes wasn’t explicitly allowed to have butts, breasts and genitals before.

    edit: oh… not his ex. just call it Twitter ffs.

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      It’s Twitter. It will always be twitter. It should never be called anything else. Put x.com in your browser and see what happens to the address bar. It’s twitter.

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        they recently changed the address i think, finally. but i don’t care, it’s still a dumb and nondescript name (i mean, it’s literally the shorthand for ‘unknown’) replacing probably the tech brand most integrated into languages around the world.

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      The edit makes this seem unintentional, but this was the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time

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        if you look closely you can see that the comment wasn’t really edited; it’s part of the joke. I’m glad it made you laugh.

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    I can’t wait for the stories to come out showing ads for companies next to CSAM that hasn’t been taken down in a month.

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    X has been toying with the idea of fully embracing adult content and has even planned a feature for adult creators that could position X as an OnlyFans rival. That plan was delayed, Platformer reported in 2022, after red-teaming flagged a seemingly insurmountable obstacle to the launch: “Twitter cannot accurately detect child sexual exploitation and non-consensual nudity at scale.”

    Non-consensual porn had also been a serious problem for PornHub, eventually they just nuked all unverified accounts.

    Hmm, maybe that’s the plan for X too. It’s been going in that pay-to-play direction for a while now.