cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/70851

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Some of the activists who spoke to Erin in the Morning did so on the condition that their last name not be published, citing safety and privacy concerns.

On August 8, police arrived on the scene of Long Branch Lagoon Water Park in Dodge City, Kansas, to the sight of three self-described “bearded, burly men” who had been in the women’s bathroom and changing area. The manager of the municipally run property allegedly screamed and rushed children out the door.

The men knew this was likely. They didn’t agitate any of the women; they didn’t remove their clothes or make crass comments. They simply used the gendered spaces that the state of Kansas requires them to use by law, because these men are transgender.

“Supporters of SB244, including Attorney General Kris Kobach and Senate Majority Leader Ty Masterson, billed it as a way to keep men out of women’s spaces; it clearly requires some men to enter women’s spaces,” a press release sent to news outlets reads. So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

“Segregating people by suspected genitalia does nothing to improve public safety; it does quite the opposite by opening Kansans up to sexual harassment and discrimination. At no point should anyone be asking anyone else what genitals they have in public.”

The men, dressed in yellow “Compliance Crew” shirts, were part of a small group of trans-masculine Kansans who used the women’s room at facilities across the state that day in a coordinated action. They were also spotted at a zoo, a library, a museum, and other parks. They were in Emporia, Great Bend, Garden City, and Dodge City. At the library, at least one patron complained; at other places, the men used the bathroom and received dirty looks, and simply left the space without confrontation.

But at Long Branch Lagoon, members of the Kansas Compliance Crew resorted to having to describe their genitals to police in order to resolve the matter and avoid arrest.

“The men had a discussion with the manager and police and explained the situation, including uncomfortable descriptions of their bodies,” the press release said. Furthermore, both the manager and the police reportedly said “they had never heard of SB244 nor been notified by any government entity of its passage.”

“I could easily continue using the men’s restroom under the radar,” said Ray Vieux, who participated as one of the demonstrators.

SB244 passed in February. It enshrined biological, immutable, and unscientific sex definitions into state law, established bathroom bans in many government owned buildings, and purported to invalidate driver’s licenses of trans Kansans who had changed their gender marker.

Since the bill passed, Vieux continued to use the men’s room in public spaces “enough to land me in jail several times over if I had been reported,” he said.

“As a trans man, I have the immense privilege of blending in. But these laws force me to choose between safety and obeying the law,” Vieux told Erin in the Morning. “I want people outside of Kansas to understand that many of us don’t want to leave, no matter how bad it gets. But every time I drive with an ‘F’ on my license or use the restroom, I fear for my safety.”

Charles, a 52-year-old ranch hand, said he participated to show the impacts of the bill. “It was pushed as a way to keep men out of women’s spaces,” he said. “As trans men and transmasculine people, we have a really unique opportunity to demonstrate, with action, visually, just exactly how wrong that was. That the law does not actually do what it was advertised to do.”

The group emphasized that they believed it was important for all trans people, but that trans women, in particular, were bearing the brunt of this anti-trans rhetoric about so-called “men” in women’s spaces. They’re not the only ones taking similar action; Samantha Boucher, a trans activist in Topeka, used the restroom at the statehouse to protest the bill, and law enforcement declined to intervene. Police seemed to selectively enforce a similar ban during an action in Texas.

Meanwhile, in states like Arizona, Florida, Massachusetts, South Carolina, and Louisiana, transgender and cisgender people alike have been accosted by law enforcement and/or civilians determined to enforce bathroom sex segregation, even in places where no such law applies. It has resulted in multiple arrests and physical altercations.

In February, the ACLU of Kansas sued the state on behalf of two transgender men who had their driver’s licenses invalidated due to SB244, which a senior attorney for the organization called “a transparent attempt to deny transgender people autonomy over their own identities and push them out of public life altogether.”

In the aftermath of Saturday’s action, Theodore, another demonstrator who is a case manager and transgender man in his 30s, said he was surprised by the sheer level of vitriolic backlash. But for the most part, in his experience, it wasn’t in the bathrooms. It was on social media.

When news broke of their small but mighty protest, there were threats ofremoved and violence, of people calling them pedophiles, of people spewing anti-trans conspiracies and hatred.

“I’m just a boring dad,” Theodore said, looking at some of those comments. “I’m out here trying to keep my kids safe, too.”

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  • moss_icon [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    …as people were predicting would happen all along.

    So they want trans people to use the bathroom of their ASAB, but then when trans men use the women’s bathroom, cops called.

    They just want trans people out of society and aren’t even hiding it.

    • Athena5898 [any]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t pass. I’m a Butch and on low dose T. Every day I go into the bathroom I wonder if this will be the day I get the cops called on me.

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        If you don’t pass you’re probably safer. The ones who pass and go into the woman’s bathrooms make the people who get upset think it’s the stereotypical “man who pretends to be trans so he can harass women.”

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          Not even straight, cisgender, feminine presenting women are safe. Looking older, having a deeper voice, a little more body or facial hair than they expect, or shorter hair, or just dressing differently than what they like. And specially not being white or east-asian. This is all about forcing AFAB people back into a box.

          • 389aaa [it/its]@hexbear.net
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            3 months ago

            It’s about oppressing transgender people with trans women being the primary target. I haven’t heard of a cis woman ever having to deal with more than a mild annoyance because of laws like these.

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              There have been several cis women who have had the cops called on them that have made national news a few times. That was just white women, no idea how this is affecting the Black community tbh. Transgender women are the target of course, however trans feminism is about how it is all connected. If you don’t prescribe to what the patriarchy wants you to do, then you are punished.

              As I’ve seen people put it, the oppressors are not going to wait around and make sure they have the facts before being oppressive.

              • 389aaa [it/its]@hexbear.net
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                I’m not aware of any of those cis women facing any sort of lasting consequence beyond a tense interaction with cops, but really the main reason I made that comment was because I hate how often I see hypothetical consequences for cis AFAB people centered over those of trans women.

                I’ve yet to see these laws be discussed once without someone crawling out to act like the real point of these laws is to discipline AFABs, when that is just objectively not the primary target in any way. It is increasingly annoying for me as these laws get more and more oppressive that people STILL can’t center trans women in goddamned any context.

                • Xeno@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Take a look at Peter Thiel. Not only he’s bathtub buddies with Sam Altman, Suckerberg’s mentor, and otherwise involved in a lot of the shit going on in the US right now, but the press is also terrified of him, so it’s reasonable to assume there’s a lot more he’s doing people don’t know about.

                  He’s obsessed with what he calls scapegoating, which seems to be the main tactic of the far right everywhere.

                  Now look at how much money is being pumped into transphobia in so many countries. I don’t think the trans community is big enough anywhere to justify that kind of expense. My view is that they see trans people as a convenient scapegoat. Yes, trans people are suffering the worst of it, that’s how scapegoating works, but it’s easier to justify to their followers than straight up “women must strictly comform to western ideals of beauty and femininity otherwise we’ll do corrective **** on them, including your virgin christian daughter, even if she just happens to have broad shoulders”.

                • Athena5898 [any]@hexbear.net
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                  That’s a good point too. I have also seen these sort of gotchas about these laws. I think originally it might of been in good faith to get cis people to care. But regardless its not often used like that anymore.

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                J.K. Rowling isn’t the inventor of transmisogyny, and I really don’t know what the point of showing me this tweet is?

                This is just her using the same rhetoric she always uses - Rowling denies the very concept of ‘transgender’ and always uses ‘male’ to refer to those she believes to be trans women. A single famous boxer suffering from misdirected transmisogyny doesn’t mean that ‘this is all about forcing AFAB people back into a box’.

                Trans women are literally being killed or arguably worse, being thrown into prison to beremovedd over and over and over because of shit like this. A boxer not being able to box is sad for her I guess but to act like that’s proof AFABs are the primary target is frankly disgustingly out of touch with what it’s like to be a trans woman in the current environment.

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                  My point is she made it clear she didn’t care if Imane Khelif was trans or not, the problem is what she “saw”.

                  These people are not gonna wait to ask how people identify or what was assigned to them at birth. They’re gonna go on visuals, voice, presentation, mannerisms, anything. Anyone who doesn’t conform to what they want to see in a woman is in danger.

          • SwitchyandWitchy [she/her]@hexbear.netM
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            this is all about forcing AFAB people back into a box

            They certainly want to, but that is not what this is about. While these cases suck and also display how backwards these laws and attitudes are, the target is still trans women. We just saw a perfect example here:

            CW: extreme transphobia and transmisogyny

            https://hexbear.net/post/9221878

            A T4T couple, a trans woman (Aurora Rush) and a non-binary person (Shae Sanders) were assaulted. Aurora used the restroom earlier that day, but the assault happened when Shae went to use the restroom. During that Aurora was harassed and threatened by a man and eventually a crowd of men and women as she was waiting for Shae outside the bathroom. Once they finished in the restroom and left, they went to her and put their arm around her to leave but the crowd wouldn’t let them and started beating the two of them.

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          I don’t pass for either at times, depending on who sees me. When I say i don’t pass I mean i don’t pass enough to be safe in either bathroom completely.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Furthermore, both the manager and the police reportedly said “they had never heard of SB244 nor been notified by any government entity of its passage.”

    Another reminder that cops are not legal experts and are typically woefully ignorant of what the laws actually are.