For example, people on Reddit asking redundant questions and give equally redundant or unhelpful answers.
Whenever every ‘What’s the worst show you’ve seen?’ is asked, you’ll get 10,000 “Kardashians” answers, which is just easy karma farming.
If someone posts in a community that’s geared for something like opinions, but someone elects to just go on a full scale rant instead.
Probably the biggest one would be needlessly hostile or mocking responses.
Wow, this was my first thought as well. I wonder if it would help to have an etiquette manual with examples of how to disagree respectfully.
Yep. Just blocked someone for that. I will not put up with that behavior here.
Sometimes it’s so hard though… It’s hard to find posts that are just slightly disagreeing… It’s always some asshole talking absolute bullshit or minimizing other people’s suffering… It’s really hard to respectfully disagree with someone who says vile shit.
It’s really hard to respectfully disagree with someone who says vile shit.
Those are called trolls; you’re not supposed to feed them (before or after midnight).
Downvote and move on…
Well, I did say needlessly hostile. I definitely didn’t mean that you should treat actually vile people with velvet gloves.
I’m talking more about the overall culture on Reddit where you’d have someone making some innocuous mistake and getting torn into it for it.
Although, yeah, that does also extend to general disagreements that tend to take on raised hairs where it really isn’t warranted. Like, just of the top of my head, what happens whenever someone discusses the viability of nuclear power.
I think you should change your mentality. Imo, most people want to do good, most people are average intelligence, and most people are about average informed. I’m not extraordinary- so when I disagree with someone I’m recognizing that they probably genuinely want good, they probably know as much as me, and they probably are as smart as me, yet they disagree. Maybe one of us is lacking information, or maybe they have a different philosophy than me. And I can accept that and think they’re wrong without jumping to them being a bad person. Basically, being wrong isn’t evil- and I don’t determine what is right anyways.
That’s a nice attitude. Many discussions would benefit from more people strive for something like that.
Edit: added a word and comma.
Edit 1: wow guys thank you so much.
Edit 2: Rip my inbox.
Edit 3: Ok guys Im going to sleep.
Pointless comment trying to be a contrarian to just add /s at the end.
Shut the fuck up
I appreciate a little footnote to explain what was edited, but yes to all the rest
And if its just a typo? Use strike through, then you can leave your funny typo and correct it
EDIT: i just commented this, right now.
Questions like “When you’re sexing some sexy sex, how many sex do you sex?”
Let’s keep the immature high school/sad old desperate man horniness out of here.
Adding to this, I’d love to never see the phrase “Sexy Time” ever again
Ugh there are so many phrases I cannot stand from reddit. “thanks for the gold kind stranger” makes me want to throw my computer out of the window.
When does the narwhal bacon?
“RIP my inbox”, “How do I delete someone else’s comment”, etc
How can I give you gold to this comment fellow redditor
I wish I could upvote this twice.
(I meant this as a reference to people saying that on reddit)
Jesus, yes. I can’t tell you how many subreddits got swamped with high-school leveled questions about sex.
Especially in TooAfraidToAsk, which is supposed to be about questions that’d normally be about trying to ask taboo things to get a discussion. But no, you’ll come across questions like “if there is no porn to look at, what do you look at instead while jerking off in the shower?”. Like, besides trolls, who the hell comes up with some questions like that? Let’s not forget the abundance of people, showcasing the lack of sexual education, asking if they’d get HPV by doing this or HIV by doing that.
I feel bad because clearly these poorly educated teenagers need answers to these questions. But it really drags down the level of discourse.
And not just regarding sex, but any other “oh you’re obviously 14” takes.
Makes you wonder if the loads of stupid sex questions has anything to do with the lack of proper sex education in schools.
who the hell comes up with some questions like that?
I mean the obvious answer is of course young teenagers, especially if their family has a uncomfortable relation to sexuality.
Reddit seems like it is largely made up of two main demographics. It’s either people in their 30’s, 40’s, 50’s who were there since the site’s launch (me) or teenagers to early/mid 20’s. The latter has a big reach on the site right now.
So you’re basically saying reddit is mainly being used by people from 20 to 60 years. What a surprise ;)
My interpretation was it excludes people from 27-30
Reddit’s target demographic are mostly humans.
I saw one today on that Reddit bot instance of Lemmy titled:
“I like the smell of my vagnina after my boyfriend cums in me.”
I’m not sure if it’s bored teenagers, bots or straight up dumb asses that are posting that garbage, nor why.
I hope this was a mistype. :(
Every single time I think about reddit, that picture of a past reddit meet-up appears in my head. 99% were fat, disgenetic, unappealing, unhealthy, weird looking people.
i don’t know… i see a few people using reddit on public transit and they look alright. I find that kind of disingenuous
The different Reddit meetups I had gone to weren’t like that. But after that picture it became nearly impossible to get a meetup going.
This stereotype has stemmed from the amount of neckbeard incelish redditors that hate on women more than anything
I forgot about that pic! Nightmare fuel!
It was a shame because that seemed to kill meetups. I had been to a couple up to that point, they didn’t look like that and were a lot of fun.
The SFW porn network needs not to be called the SFW porn network. No communities named CarPorn or UniformPorn or, worse, AbandonedPorn or AnimalPorn.
I always hated those names!
[BLANKS] of Lemmy: “what’s the sexiest sex you’ve ever sexed?”
/r/EnoughXSpam
What is the point of a community about hating seeing spam of a certain topic if all the community does is spam about the topic?
Underrated comment. I understand making a comment every now and then that’s negative (people should be free to reasonably complain) but whole subs devoted to hating on something create the most toxic environments and echo chambers on the internet while inadvertently contributing to the popularity of the thing they hate. The universe grows what you give attention to so I think its best to focus your attention on things you love instead of what you hate.
Probably the weirdos that drown in an ocean of their own cum whenever a woman is mentioned.
That’s just teenagers. They will arrive eventually if Lemmy gets more popular.
Nope, a lot of them are grown ass adults.
Yeah reddit has been like this since 2010 back when reddit mainly consisted of 30 year old men
At a certain point took like 5 years for me to notice on reddit was when summer would hit the site would be shit, I tossed it up to the kids arrived, again.
As 4chan would call it back in the late 00s, “endless new*** summer”
As usenet would like to call it in the 90s, Eternal September
Hi, it’s me, a teenager on Lemmy :')
That’s ok, just want to make sure you’re not like those teenagers
Okay, pretend I mentioned a female celebrity you like… are you still with us? How are you feeling?
Shutting down questions with any variation “just Google it” It always irks me when someone goes “bro you know Google exists right” like if I wanted to Google it I wouldn’t be asking it here
Sometimes the question isn’t about the answer but about the interaction.
And preserving knowledge in an additional space
Often times google led you there and you get this answer. Love that.
People also forget that Google doesn’t give the same results for everyone. Sure you could use incognito mode, but how many people are going to do that when they’re looking for normal stuff?
This. So much this.
Going to a sub of strictly like minded people and posting popular opinions for karma.
“Thanks for the gold” and other “Edit: this blew up” type bullshit.
Any time someone says “obligatory [anything]” I want to scream.
Unpopular opinion: [incredibly popular opinion]
+67,000 upvotes
Oh God I hope award speech edits don’t make it over here
Like memes@lemmy.ml
This
/s
I used to use /s all the time over at Reddit - especially in political discussions. If I posted sarcastically “advocating” for something, I didn’t want people to misread the post and think I seriously supported that thing.
Normally, I could trust that people would pick up on the sarcasm, but it’s hard over text and there were people actually advocating for the horrible stuff. I didn’t want to be mistaken for one of them, so I’d add a /s. It definitely ruined the joke, but I’d rather do that than have someone think I was racist/sexist/bigoted/etc.
Sometimes the /s is necessary. It’s difficult to convey sarcasm in writing.
Why is posting this ironically any better than posting it unironically?
It’s one of the thing I don’t miss. Using it the “correct way” is supposed to hurt your eyes. /s for the people who don’t get it.
That’s the fate of, ironically, a subreddit called UNPOPULARopinions.
“Beyonce is overrated!” - just throw them the lifetime achievement award for “unpopular”. /s
I get the others, but why that last one?
Think of it like this. When humans talk to humans, is any joke ever obligatory? It’s “that’s what she said” any time anything vaguely prurient gets mentioned.
Now imagine if they said “I’m obligated to tell you that’s what she said.” Do you see how they’ve added a tragic undercut to a comment that already wasn’t funny?
People should not do this.
To be frank, I still don’t get it, but I also hardly qualify as a human to begin with.
It’s overrated, you’re doing great
It’s amazing for how much this place is supposed to be decentralized and open, hours much you all want to control messaging, themes, and already are having fight over fight on who to defederate from.
Twice now I’ve seen claims of “This instance just exists to support <something bad>! Defederate them!”
Meanwhile I’m subscribed to what appear to be completely normal, reasonable communities on those instances that seem to have nothing to do with the bad thing. Think topics like computer networking and home improvement, stuff like that.
Can we go easy on jumping to the “This instance” claims? Yes, some unsavory communities have been started on various instances. Those instances have, in general, addressed the issues when they were brought to their attention… Can we reserve the nuclear defederation option for repeat offenders or technical issues?
Only Tangentially related but I keep reading “Defederate” as “Defenestrate”. Which is a way better way to deal with rogue instances IMO.
Brings a whole new meaning to “new <thing> just dropped”
Honestly not fan of defederation. I believe the answer should be giving users the ability to block instances. Maybe in the future versions of lemmy.
Can you share a list of your subscribed communities? I need to bulk up
For home improvement, I’ve been using !homeimprovement@lemmy.world. For computer networking, !networking@sh.itjust.works. sh.itjust.works was one of the ones I saw people screaming to defederate because someone started a community there that most people (including me) found problematic. (Pretty sure the admins deleted it when they became aware.)
Beyond that…what topics interest you? Pretty pictures? Try !pixelpassport@lemm.ee or !earthporn@lemmy.ml .
Cats? !cat@lemmy.world is pretty active already, as one might expect…
I have a few geographically local subscriptions, as well as a sports team…a few TV shows like Futurama and The Simpsons…other hobbies…etc.
Futurama is life. Photography, cooking, home theater, vegetable gardening, reading, movies, sci-fi, Action Figures, bourbon, cocktails, cheese.
I joined a Nikon community here: !nikon@lemm.ee if that’s what you happen to shoot with.
what are your favorite communities for home improvement?
The only one I know of is !homeimprovement@lemmy.world (sorry if I didn’t get that link correct). Not much traffic yet, but a few people have posted issues.
(Note - I used home improvement as an example of a general type of community that I subscribe to. I don’t know if lemmy.world was one of the ones I saw people pushing to defederate.)
Right? My feed could really use some more Tim Allen.
Experience has shown that too much blue-eyed-ness and openness towards trolls with bad intentions ruins a space very quickly. I can understand people want to put some thought into avoiding this before it happens.
I mean you’re highlighting some points that support how open and decentralized that this place is?
It seems there is a healthy sentiment among users and understanding the tolerance paradox. Beyond that the ability to discuss around what we (an instance) wants vs what we (Lemmy) wants vs what we (individual users) want is great. The option the federate and defederate is also great, as if there is an instance adding 0 value to any of those prior groups (like lemmy.online), you as a community can decide to not federate. You as a user don’t like that choice? You can go to another instance or make your own! The level of openess and control is really in your hands.
“You win the internet!” Anything “sir” or “gentlesir” leave that shit in the 2010s
“Kind stranger”, “Came here to say this” (no one cares)
Unfunny puns.
I actually liked those, probably because I also do a lot of dad jokes irl. I didn’t know so many people were annoyed by them.
It’s mainly cos they end up being the top 3-upvoted comments on a thread asling a serious question like “[SEERIOUS] How do I not die of cancer”
Cue: Top 3 answers being puns on death or cancer. It gets irritating after a while. :/
Probs won’t be a big deal on Lemmy since the comments are default-sorted by New instead of Top.
You make it sound like the real issue is people being flippant at seirous descussion, all I van say is learn to know when to nest comments and dont joke at the dieing
You can always collapse the shitty joke threads, over and over, because they never end on reddit.
No, it’s not just that. That was just an extreme example.
It’s more the fact evweryone seems to be training to be a stand up comedian with the lowest form of wit known to man - the pun.
Cute cat falls over - “Floof floofed”.
Horse bites person - “That animal ain’t horsing around”
Can we just have normal comments without everyone trying so fuckign hard to be funny? The only purpose of those try-hards is they want karma.
Notice the puns don’t seem to be a thing on Lemmy? Cos karma isn’t a thing!
I was a 16yr ‘veteran’ on Reddit. I know how the site worked and works. I can collapse comments fine and was perfectly able and knew I’d have to skip past the top 3-4 comments of a post.
The only sin bigger than the puns is the poor variety of people commenting on the ways they “spit out their coffee” at how FUNNEH said pun was. It gets tiresome. Really, really fuckign tiresome.
If you knew someone in real life who made the same jokes every 5mins, every single day - you’d probably cut them out of your life because you found them dull to be around.
That’s how Reddit felt.
Guilty of this - both the dad jokes and some of my all-time upvoted comments being puns.
Cynicism and despair. There are no better words to describe reddit today than these two. Why do they argue endlessly over nothing? Because to them, nothing matters.
You can see that sentiment start popping up in the comments with the newest influx, but I hope sincerity will win out in the end this time.
Especially the pointless cynicism of a “Didn’t happen” reply. My single most powerful change to make Twitter a less toxic place (ho, ho) when I used it was to block @DHOTYA_ and related keywords and anyone who used them.
Pn the reddit side, i started lurking !savethirdpartyapps@reddit same topics over here but… people were being brought in circles by the same claims being repeated by the “nothing matters” people, the fact the debate was harrassed into hopelessness. The problems of these people were adressed to be not hopeless 15,12,7 and 4 threads ago. Its frustrating!
Although I’m sure this is highly optimistic, I’d love to avoid the toxic behaviors that were free to grow on Reddit. The most hateful words I’ve ever read were on Reddit; I’m already seeing it happen here. It would be wonderful if discourse was welcomed here and promoted without all of the toxic back and forth. What was more harmful was a large amount of one-sided bans dealt out by mods of a certain variety. As long as the mods agreed with someone’s stance it didn’t matter how obscene a comment made, was. Let’s try and be better than Reddit in more than one way.
Seriously. I’ve been IP banned from reddit for a while, just because I made a vague comment on my main account while also having a burner that I just say my opinions on.
