• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    Not the government … just billionaires

    government is the symptom … billionaires are the underlying cancer

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      I feel if governments functioned to regulate as they should, we would not have issues like billionaires.

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        I think the problem there is that the power-hungry will always erode the goodness of the government over time, causing the return of issues like billionaires. If there’s a way to prevent that, I haven’t been told about it.

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          Iron rule of oligarchy

          The solution is probably just, resisting it as hard as when the issue gets really bad, just all the time. The people in charge need to work for everyone, and that requires everyone to constantly be on their ass about it.

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          I think you’re right. The power-hungry will wipe out any checks and balances that are enacted on them. how to prevent this? easy answer: apply laws and regulations that target insurmountable amounts of wealth.

          here’s the difficult part: getting it to happen and actually making it stick. how can we, as a society, do this? I’m not sure, but it has been done before.

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            I hate to deify the founding fathers more than they already have been but they outlined this one for us pretty clearly. Each generation was meant to make substantial changes to the laws of the nation and if that failed to maintain our freedom then coordinated violence against the oppressors is the fallback solution. This belief is clear both from the laws they enacted and their personal writings. We’ve conditioned ourselves to believe that violence is never appropriate and those who are oppressing us are exploiting that fact to an absurd degree. Nothing will change until our oppressors believe that physical harm will come to them if they do not stop oppressing us.

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              “On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct”

              -Thomas Jefferson

              Politicians have become so disconnected from reality that they’ve become lords of their own little fiefdoms and unless they are reminded that the job is to represent, not rule, then nothing will change for the better. Unfortunately when the ballot box doesn’t work, ammo is next.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      They’ve all been meeting in little exclusive groups in the white house to felate Trump on a regular basis. It’s fucking disgusting.

      I wonder how many kids they traffic through there during these little events? I wonder if they are all on the Epstein list.

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      Other way around.

      Authority is what protects the billionaires. The whole system is designed to benefit them.

      The only way to defeat them is to transition to a classless, stateless society.

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        They’ve bought the laws that made it much more so over the past few decades. The laws are where we take it back, and then create laws with no tolerance that prevent aggressive behaviors from having any place in society outside of maybe certain types of military & sports, but even those will need strong controls in place.

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          The laws have protected them and their wealth since day one. America was founded to protect its rich landed nobility voters, anything since is a hack on top.

          You cannot control them, history shows this time and time again, it is better to eliminate their means of power in the first place.

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            You’re talking about completely eliminating the existing structure of the country. Good luck getting an even vaguely significant proportion of the population to go along with that. People are too afraid of what they don’t know or understand.

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          The mechanism of law fundamentally favors the powerful, the mechanism if violence to lubricate coordination and smoother roughness is fundamentally antidemocratic, and fundamentally wielded against the most marginal. Both will always produce reinforce and snowball stratification. The medium kind of is the message here.

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      Two things can suck. Government and the use of force is a fundamentally anti-democratic method. It’s why we can have billionaires¹.

      ¹who are severe problems and need to get got. Obviously.

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      Late-’80s/early-’90s was a wild time. People really wore this stuff around, not just celebrities on TV!

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    The thing is, you only get one shot. It needs to happen, but it needs to happen the right way at the right time.

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      If you want to do a hot insurrection, sure. But you can also take baby steps, make that final leap easier. Build community, organize outside government, organize infrastructure that functions outside financial institutions¹, build capacity trust coordination to make everything the regime wants more of a pain in the ass, but. Their human resources out, blunt their swords cutting paper and wood, and get opposition more cohesive capable resourced as the state recedes and you find ways to fill those responsibilities.

      There will still be violence, and there may still be a jump if you want to get rid of the state, but you can turn it fron a jump you’d associate with a rocket propelled motorcycke down to a jump you’d associate with a particularly edgy crossfit routine.

      ¹as conservative as cash only/monero for your tomatoes and lettuce, as radical as in kind trades labor exchange and ²rural development or full ‘half my crop goes to communism’

      ²solar panels, soil chemistry work, crispr, granaries, water exploration, etc.

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    Yea, it is time for the capitalist portion of the US government to end. We had a good run, but the founding fathers didn’t make enough things constitutionally illegal … still allowing political parties was the biggest mistake. Swearing allegiance to a political party should be treason and an automatic disqualification for serving office. George Washington warned that political parties would eventually destroy the US and it looks like he will be proven correct.

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      I’ve been underwhelmed by Carney’s response to the housing crisis. Promising to build 4,000 homes next year doesn’t seem proportional to the spending or scale of the problem. If they’d said “4k in 2026, and 40k in 2027” or some other significant ramp up, I think that probably would have made me feel a bit better.

      Maybe stamets is in the same boat?

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      He’s basically biden sans senility, building scaffolding for fascism and putting one liter of blood in for every two the patient loses, with no effort to stitch up the wound, crowding out the place where a real medic might stand.

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        If I wasn’t a depressive sad sack with no drive I’d be learning Spanish and finding something in demand the fuck away from English speakers before the next federal election.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    All the gun toting leftists are too busy coming up with excuses as to why the second amendment doesn’t apply to the government putting on masks and rounding up/disappearing citizens, and the president wanting to be a king.

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      I’m a gun-toting Leftist and I’m simply too much of a little-dicked bitch to die for no reason because none of you morons show up with me just as armed. So, fuck this.

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    Nope. When speaker mikey j goes on left news to calm potential rioters into thinking they have a chance you already lost.