• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think those are “gateways” though. I think the real gateway is when you try something that you’re taught is vilified and told it will make you stupid and ruin your life, but then all it really does is chill you out. The gateway is realizing you’ve been lied to and you wonder what else was a lie so you try other things. Alcohol if anything has the opposite problem.

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      100%. There’s also the fact that when weed is illegal, the only way to get it is through someone who likely sells other illegal substances so it’s not hard to start messing around with other things after smoking for a bit.

      Weed is only a gateway drug when its illegal

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    The classification of cannabis changed to incarnate more black people. It’s a historical fact and it’s sad that many people don’t know that.

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      I believe originally, it was used to incarcerate Latin Americans, hence the naming of “Marihuana” and later, “Marijuana” to make it sound more Spanish.

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      It wasn’t just race, it was Black People and anyone else that associated with them. If someone went against authority and smoked weed, they were a danger to authority.

      It was a litmus test

      But pretty fucking close for .ml account

  • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca
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    Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.

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      Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…

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        There is a whole merchandise category about people not being able to function without coffee but I’ve never seen a mug that says “don’t talk to me unless I’ve bumped a rail”

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    Person 1: You know what? You’re right. They should all be deregulated.

    Person 2: You know what? You’re right. They should all be illegal.

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    I believe that sugar and caffeine are the real gateway drugs, they are the 1st chemical compounds many people are addicted to.

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      Gateway to what? Harder cookies? A double shot of espresso? They’re definitely drugs, but I think to call them a gateway isn’t so accurate.

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        Both of those are biologically necessary. So if we’re going that route, oxygen.

        You can live just fine without consuming sugar or caffeine.

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          Sugar is a bit of a stretch, since we also do need it. We just get it in a lot of food, since a lot of the foods we eat also need sugar to grow and do things.

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          Dude… they’re literally banning fast-food ads in the UK. This is no time to get pedantic haha

          You can absolutely get addicted to salt and fat

          And we do need sugar… Carbs are sugar. You need carbs

          Don’t take this personally but it kinda sucks you got upvoted this much

          EDIT: Lots of morbidly obese Americans here. Sorry I offended your gods, salt and fat. Oh and get off the internet every once in a while. There’s too many of you here and 90% of your opinions are moronic.

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    It goes along with how they categorize cannabis as “drug” while alcohol for some reason gets it’s own special category.

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      Because one is legal and one isn’t…

      If alcohol or tobacco was illegal, they’d be treated like illegal drugs

      Laws aren’t always correct.

      Do you understand it now?

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        Because one is legal and one isn’t…

        Both alcohol and cannabis are legal.

        But they are still treated very differently legally despite both being drugs.

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    Its been my experience that 125cc motorcycles, Cessna 172’s, DJI Mini-2 drones, and Ender-3’s are also gateway drugs. Less illegal but just as damaging financially.

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    The war on drugs has always been bullshit. I wonder how many bosses have said “drug free workplace” or principals saying “drug free campus” while holding a cup of coffee.

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      I’m not for prohibition whatsoever, but have you seen the difference between someone who chose coffee as their drug of choice and spend decades drinking it versus smoking meth?

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    As someone that’s smoked weed for 20 years, I think it’s too potent now and consider the plant to be something that got abused by humans the same way humans abuse everything they touch.

    Don’t be a stoner.

    Use it as medicine.

    Stoners are junkies.

    After 20 years I’m finally realizing this and using it more as only medicine.

    I remember a quote I read a looong time ago… “If your eyes get red you are abusing it.” From that point on when your eyes are deeply red, it’s not medicine, it’s an escape.

    Also… The side effects of capitalism are a gateway drug because capitalism gives people the want to escape.