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  • transophobia

    How would a trans person even deal with state level transophobia where if you transition and e.g. don’t match your ID picture they wont provide services for you? They would never let me change my ID as nobody can here and it sucks. I’m not on HRT mostlycause I will get socially excluded from the state apparatus so I’ll probably have no healthcare or anything at this rate, and finding a job is hard as is in technology/techbro dominated field. But it sucks a lot, my only comforts are small GNC acts.

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        Not really unless I declare my ID as lost, they’re valid for a decade+ here. Even if I do that, looking visibly more effeminate would raise a lot of questions. From what I’ve seen the small amount of trans people that are out and transitioned here are constantly facing legal roadblocks (obvs) and you get basically excluded from society; hell even medically it’s as bad, I have some weird health shit that doctors as is blame on “GNC” things I do (shaving my body, having long hair)… cant imagine how it would be taking hormones DIY… would never get anything done lmao; Like theoretically I could go on HRT and then just be like yep that’s me and don’t change my markers or name (don’t really care much about it), but knowing this country people would freak out at the marker difference…; ironically, while masking and because I have hair down to my waist, even when speaking with no voice training and I’m not on HRT lol I still pass to a lot of people and I get she/her’d, I guess the gender roles are so ancient here that having long hair and obscuring my face a bit instantly makes me pass xD, so I think on HRT I’d have no issues, but damn legally…

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          Not really unless I declare my ID as lost, they’re valid for a decade+ here.

          Could this not be done?

          Even if I do that, looking visibly more effeminate would raise a lot of questions.

          You might be overthinking this. Would the ID renewal clerk really care?

          Or are you talking about the effects of HRT? In that case, you should note that you can take HRT doses/formulations to slow down the masculinising effects of T and improve your mood. You wouldn’t necessarily look significantly more effeminate unless you take a dose of that level. Plus it changes over time and is dependent on genetics. The best way to make an estimation is to look at your mom/sisters/aunts.

          I have some weird health shit that doctors as is blame on “GNC” things I do (shaving my body, having long hair)

          That is quite horrible. Sorry about this.

          but damn legally

          Yeah the legal situation is bad everywhere. Even this place famous for acceptance throws up so many barriers in the legal route. I can’t imagine the kind of bs you must go through over there given your description.

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            I could declare it as lost I suppose. Maybe not the renewal clerk, but anyone else checking my ID would likely throw a fuss seeing M and see someone visibly femmem e.g. workplace or uni, I think at least. I’m like severely depressed and dissociating from myself like I dont like my body but also I feel like I cant take HRT anyways, I need my family’s support for now even if I work and live by myself, I cant afford to get disowned right now lmao; so I always postpone it, I should try looking into lower dosages. But then I’m afraid of supply issues, etc etc and I always find a reason to not go with it through and I hate it, feels like I’m always creating excuses, but I don’t feel safe at all, so it’s hard to think of making myself even more vulnerable e.g. outside. I will try looking into lower dosages I havent really thought that was a possibility, ty!!

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              I will give you a few pieces of advise, cause I can recognize the whole making excuses thing. I was doing that a lot before starting HRT.

              1. Anyone who has an issue with your renewed ID is going to have an issue with the discrepancy between your looks and the ID photo as well.
              2. If you don’t want your ID photo to appear too effeminate you can make some changes on photo day and undo them later on. You could for instance tie your hair behind your back in a ponytail such that on the photo it is hidden behind the back. That’s just an idea I thought up of.
              3. Family support is an absolutely valid reason to slow down the transitioning. Your personal safety is the number 1 priority. Don’t beat yourself up over it
              4. Estrogen injectables have a long shelf life and they run through slowly (it took me 16 months to go through 20 ml, and I’m on a very high dose). Sadly, only injectibles have this advantage and require you to pay with crypto currency from most vendors. However this also means that keeping your purchase anonymous is doable and in theory you could get someone’s help to buy E (so for instance a trusted person purchases the E on your behalf and has it shipped to you, though the logistics of this may be complex). Also if you do a low dose then the headache would be a once in a 2-3 years kind of deal. But of course, I can imagine crypto might be a difficult thing to use where you come from. Or not. I don’t know where you live.
              5. cuddle stay strong. Your predecessors went through many troubles as well and they’re proud of you, ok?
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                1. Yeah truee
                2. I know the fat redistribution changes a bit though on the face?
                3. Wish I earned more but alas :/
                4. I have a vial from some friends and I havent opened it yet… I must check out the low dosages
                5. thank you for the kind words and help:3 really appreciate it
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                  1. It does, but it’s subtle in the first few years. Especially if you’re on a low dose just trying to suppress T.

                  It’s a bit difficult to calculate doses. There are 2 options recomended. Monotherapy with doses high enough to suppress T (since the presence of relatively low levels or E can cause feminisation, the main point becomes suppressing T). And low doses of E with anti-andogens which accomplishes the same effect.

                  There is the option of just suppressing T with anti-andogens but this has the problem that your body needs a minimal level of hormones to function properly. Suppressing T without adding E is just putting your body into early menopause which won’t be good for you. But theoretically you can try it if if dysphoria is that bad.

                  There is also the option of tuning your T until it is in the tail end of the cis male distribution. This has the downside of needing bloodwork to actually know what range you’re starting from and also, to know how your body is taking the hormones.

                  The final option is to just take a small dose of E. This can help with better mental health but it will still cause some amount of feminisation. If you are worried about being outted, check your genetic situation from family. Plus note that a lot of early feminization, even on full monotherapy is going to do things like changing your skin and BO and taste buds. Breast development is relatively slow even with full monotherapy. Doing partial monotherapy isn’t really the recomended path from a scientific perspective but if it provides you with some semblance of peace go for it.

                  With injectables you can compute the levels in advance through hormone calculators (the rest of the website can also be useful).

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                    Thank you this was very informative! I probably still want to go with full monotherapy, I dont want to fuck something up with a partial one. But I wonder for how long I can boymod, that would definitely make my life easier; considering I already get she/her’d lol, I could boymod in risky situations as usual

              • I pretty much already dress like that, black band shirts or plain black shirts and military camo pants, though now it’s summer I can’t do that anymore so I’m wearing button up summer shirts from the women’s section but big enough so nobody can detect it lmao but meh I still look to masc imo, my fashion sense is sht and I dont have anywhere nice to buy clothes