• principalkohoutek [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The original thread is like a racist version of Telephone for rednote users.

    I’ve seen a lot of travel posts from Chinese netizens remarking at the enormous size of American old growth redwoods. Often, Chinese commenters will say something like “there’s no big trees like this left in China because they’ve all been cut down by the ancestors” or something to that effect.

    To denigrate a nation for not having enormous old growth trees because it has been continuously populated for millennia, but using that opportunity to compliment your own country that gets to show off these trees because your ancestors genocided the original inhabitants of the land is a uniquely Western flavor of bigotree

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      there’s no big trees like this left in China because they’ve all been cut down by the ancestors

      This is true for a lot of the rest of the world too. Much of Europe had all the old growth cut, most of the eastern US. Pretty much anywhere with lots of people that get cold in the winter have suffered from deforestation

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      Also redwoods used to spread much further up and down the coast, but colonizers cut a lot of them down and uncontrolled fires (largely caused by the colonizers) got the rest. A lot of the forests outside of the parks/wilderness areas are just tree farms anyway. Massive monoculture “forests” that only exist to be clear-cut.

      The only reason the US has any old growth forests at all is people scrambling to protect them from the capitalists over the last 150 years or so and/or the land being nearly inaccessible to heavy machinery.

      The worst part is the logging industry is horribly inefficient and designed to maximize short term profits. They’d be better off long-term using more sustainable approaches, but of course that won’t happen under capitalism.

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        Not me partly quitting school because I learned what I was studying was basically a 1 in a 10000 chance of getting a federal government job, or picking which trees get sold to be toilet paper (while working hand in hand with the federal gov to deforest “sustainably”)

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    Most Chinese have never seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Most Chinese have never seen C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.

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      honestly I kind of unironically believe this. not just for the east coast or whatever but most people have not seen nature, ever

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        The modern environmentalism movement in the US started when people realized that the last old growth in America (California’s Redwoods) was about to be cut down. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that nobody’s ever seen “nature”, but they definitely haven’t seen what the indigenous people and first couple generations of settlers got to see.

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          There’s some debate about the level of land management done by native Americans as well. The forests of New England weren’t perfectly suited for deer and berries naturally, it required regular controlled (and sometimes uncontrolled) burns by the local population. America’s a big place though, and the degree of environmental change varies by location.

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          Closest you can probably get in the continental US is hiking in the Rocky Mountains which I would highly recommend.

          Being hours away from anyone else without cell service is really refreshing.

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    Since 2021, Shanghai has increased its total parkland area by over 2,500 hectares, raising its per capita green space from 8.5 to 9.5 square meters, the bureau said.

    Over the next five years, Shanghai aims to build over 500 additional parks and increase its per capita green space by another square meter, according to bureau official Guan Qunfei.

    https://en.people.cn/n3/2025/0829/c90000-20359123.html

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    i’ve heard people tell stories that relatives of them were in china and never saw birds in public, because people would hunt and eat them, it’s not only the americans who belief this kinda stuff

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    I can’t see how the OOP is impressed by the greenery of the countryside, how fucked is America to be impressed by this?

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    you can go to fucking google maps and see they have trees throughout the city. Dare i say, more than an american one would usually have. I went down a street downtown recently and one stretch had a bunch of taller trees and it really stood out.