I’ve seen what feels like a hundred posts complaining about people saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what but I have yet to see someone saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what.
I don’t see it much on here, but they’re everywhere on Bluesky. You can search Newsom’s name and the first result will probably be someone talking shit about him with tons of comments and quote posts telling them they’re just trying to get Trump to win a third term.
I personally had many people pile on me when I criticized him during the peak of his meming on Trump. But it does feel like the tide has turned against him a bit now.
They love the pointless, performative shit.
Look at what Newsom is actually doing: presiding over a state where, for the vast majority of his constituents, it’s becoming unaffordable to live in while at the same time he is actively criminalizing homelessness.
Absolutely. And he vetoed a lot of great bills seeking to address many of the state’s crises.
He also vetoed ranked choice voting
I have absolutely seen it.
As have I, and they are sanctimonous, condescending, and tiresome in the extreme.
Support him for what?
Yeah, those posts were in response to people being completely shitty about it.
Do you need me to link to some previous discussions where there are accusations of someone being an accelerationist who prefers Trump because they criticized Newsom? Because that was just yesterday. That’s not even touching the people who flat out say ‘I am absolutely willing to sacrifice trans rights because everyone else is more important’.
The funny thing about trans people is that they also care about having an administration full of insane clowns enabling climate catastrophe, the next pandemic, and the Gaza genocide.
You would think this incredibly basic understanding of the political leanings of the average trans person would get us a little solidarity from Democratic leadership, but we can all go fuck ourselves the second a blue dog dem starts crying about being scared of pronouns apparently.
This is the time for someone else to step up and be noticed by the crowd.
It’s funny how that works on here.
Exactly. I support Newsom because he fights and would even support even Republicans. We need everyone.
Most Democrats don’t do anything beyond nice speeches and many don’t even bother with that.
Feels kind of manufactured, honestly. I’m also trying to find evidence that he’s a transphobic piece of shit, but it seems like he’s pretty good on trans rights.
I think this post is that “sowing division” thing we’ve heard so much about.
He went on
Joe Rogan’sCharlie Kirk’s show and said he doesn’t think trans women should be in sports. Solidarity only goes one way for him.Edit: the deleted comment under this by Madzielle is the work of a coward. Post for real and stand by your (shitty) opinion. Don’t delete it immediately just so it hits my inbox and you suffer no community consequences from it.
He basically capitulated to the claims that “Democrats supporting trans rights have caused them to lose support”.
That’s not even me excusing him. It’s pointing out that he’s spineless and caves under pressure, which might be even more important than whether he supports trans rights.
Rogan would be one thing since he’s a bit independently minded it was even worse it was Charlie Kirk. No reason to give him that audience.
Thanks, corrected.
Apparently the climate, the constitution, and every child in Gaza need to die on the hill of trans people in sports.
Which of your rights have you given up for any of those?
How the fuck is keeping trans people out of sports going to fix any of that? Do you think 4 years after 2028 MAGA and climate change will be gone? Will it bring back any dead kids? After we’ve accepted that trans people can’t be allowed in sports, what rights will we have to sacrifice in the next election? And the next? When is the point where you decide that actually there’s a line Democratic candidates can’t cross when it comes to trans rights, even in a primary?
Because it feels a whole lot like there is no bridge too far and people are real fuckin mad about trans people pointing that out.
It’s simple.
Vote for the Democratic nominee against the GOP in the general election.
If you live somewhere the Dems tend to win elections, vote in the Democratic primaries to change the party little by little.
If you live somewhere the GOP tends to win, vote in the GOP primaries to try and at least get rid of the MAGA Republicans and THEN vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election.
Gradual incrementalism is precisely what got us into this mess, so it isn’t that simple. So long as the Dems are controlled by their donors, they will never willingly let an actual leftist in. See Mamdani. Ratchet effect then ensures both parties grow ever rightward.
We need meaningful leftist opposition in power if the US is going to survive. I think transforming the DNC into that is a much more difficult task than anyone cares to admit, and the delusion that we can do it without forming a new party entirely is just bringing us closer to inevitable collapse once the capital owners have stolen everything from us.
Please, inform us plebs on how not voting for the Democratic nominee will help improve things.
Libs/Blue MAGA are gonna hate you for speaking the truth.
Aren’t you locked in to the party you’re registered with, specifically to avoid this scenario?
They can’t actually stop you from registering with the other party. It’s not a crime to vote in their primaries and then vote for the other party in the general.
Depends on where you live. Here in Missouri, you just tell them which primary ballot you want when you go to vote. I’ve voted for both sides (Democrat primary in 2016 and Conservative primary in 2020 since Missouri will never go blue so might as well attempt to get the least dogshit option for the Dems to weakly fight against).
Last I heard, Newsom was not currently a candidate for any election, criticize all you want.
The dude’s whole career goal is to be president.
What he is currently saying is that we are likely not have another election while others are laughing: https://youtube.com/shorts/cZpka6EX1l8
That’s what primaries are for. Come the general, you get two choices, and one of them will take the office. That’s when “taking a stand” or “checking out of the process” ends up putting the worse person in the presidency.
Then the Dems better put up somebody that will excite voters and get them to the polls
Are the Democrats going to even allow a primary this time around?
When it’s someone they don’t like the discussion turns around “electability”. But they always want us to get in line for a pro-establishment center-left corporate Democrat.
They keep trying to court voters who will never ever vote for them instead of the people who they claim to share values with.
R stopped with that shit and surprise surprise they got Trump in. Tell me again how we could never have gotten Bernie in or how AOC is too radical…
It’s almost like if you create a platform that completely disenfranchises your voting base to try and appeal to your opponent, people won’t continue to support you when you show that you no longer protect their interests.
It’s always, for decades now, attempt after attempt to appeal to the “moderates” and “reach across the aisle” to get R’s to flip but never are they allowed to move the needle to the left otherwise they get ousted as being “too radical”, in order to pull in the gigantic swatch of the population who do not participate because they see that no one actually gives a shit about them.
It’s always, for decades now, attempt after attempt to appeal to the “moderates” and “reach across the aisle” to get R’s to flip but never are they allowed to move the needle to the left otherwise they get ousted as being “too radical”
100% entirely correct!
I’m sure one of these days conservatives will vote for the (D). We just have to keep trying to meet them in the middle for another thirty years! Let’s try putting one of the Cheneys on the ballot next time.
Now whose rights are we gonna sacrifice first? I vote old people’s.
Overton’s carrot.
Dems became center left? When did that happen?
They’re center-left when compared to a literal fascist dictator.
They’re a right-wing party when compared to the rest of the world.
They’re experts on electability. Countless counter-examples to draw on.
ITT: Yet more righteous liberals extolling the virtues of not voting for the only party that can actually stand against the Fourth Reich, literally at all.
You should be sure to tell Newsom’s office he’s alienating voters with his transphobia, because for some people it’s a deal breaker. Telling people to shut up about it isn’t going to work and is also fucked.
they didn’t say to shut up about it though, they specifically addressed non-voting.
Force people to vote against their rights, why dont you?
This is why we have Trump. Democrats can’t agree on anything unless it’s perfectly aligned with their values (hint: there’s no such thing, transmaniacs)
I’m blue no matter who. Fuck yeah go new York Mayor (why the fuck is this getting so much attention), fuck yeah go newsome (why the fuck is this getting so much attention before the primary has even been announced? Before the midterms…)
Blue no matter who and asking again. WHERE THE FUCK are the EPSTEIN FILES? Me and my autocorrect friend 🦆 need to know.
Blue no matter who is for the general election though. That’s still over 3 years away. I’ll be here shitting on Newsom every day up until he’s a nominee in a competitive race against a fascist.
Based
Seeing Phil Ochs in the wild is… Wild. It often feels like he’s my own personal thing, because no one knows him, even among my leftist friends
Newsom also shills harder for corporations than Trump does which means Newsom has a real chance of winning. Whoops.
Newsom also shills harder for corporations than Trump does
(X) Doubt
“Everything’s computer!”
This is like trying to figure out which ocean is bigger by looking out from the shore. I just couldn’t say.
Newsom sucks but when you lie it’s just weird. Are you saying you prefer Trump?
It must be difficult constantly living in denial with paranoia, huh?
Yes, actually.
Anything that isn’t a vote to remove the small fingered vulgarian is a vote FOR the small fingered vulgarian. You choose. You may not like your choices but if you don’t vote to oust him you are voting for him.
This is the type of thinking that got him there in the first place.
You want to beat him or whoever succeeds him, find someone people want to vote for
You’re 100% wrong. If there are 10 voters. 8 of them really do not like Trump. 3 vote for <alternative>, 2 do not vote because they want someone to vote for, 1 votes third party and 4 vote for Trump then Trump wins. You’re never going to get a perfect candidate and you will 100% get the candidate you don’t want.
This is how Trump got elected even though he never was a popular candidate. We play the cards we’re dealt.
The fact is trump was elected because the DNC screwed up selecting their candidate. You can’t browbeat people into voting for a candidate every single time. Trump is the DNC’s fault almost entirely.
Trump was elected because he got more votes. Period. He got more votes because more people didn’t take a stand. Period. There was a way to keep him out of office and if you didn’t do that then you contributed to his election. Period. Stop whining about perfection and do some good in the world.
You need to learn that you can’t bully people into voting for you anymore. Vote for us or everyone dies isn’t the compelling option you think it is.
I’m not bullying. I’m stating what should be obvious to anyone that went to middle school. Listening to people whine about Trump and then discovering that they helped him get elected is what drives the conversation. What you don’t like is that the people whining about the world not being perfect are the same level of problem that trump is.
