Got the one-two punch of anti-Chinese nonsense and eugenics adjacent fetishization of IQ. It’s literally 
edit: I’m sorry I’m such a chronic abuser of rules one and two :(
The US and China are the same!
So you’ll oppose the one that rules over you, currently causes most of the suffering in the world and that you have an actual chance of ever having an impact on, instead of supporting it blindly and antagonizing everyone who does not support it?
Wow, had to block another tankie
The Western brainpan cannot fathom doing something beneficial for another without trying to extract a profit
I mean they probably are trying to build core infrastructure so that they can reap profits once the area has a higher standard of living, but obviously that’s mutually beneficial
Sure, but it’s done very differently and it reflects a different manner of thinking
China’s ‘investment’ is lifting a country up so that they can engage in additional dealings further down the line, which also helps build goodwill (which will no doubt help with such dealings)
Western ‘investment’ is trying to rip out everything down to the studs while giving as little back as possible
To add, it isn’t simply due to a different mindset, but due to a different mode of production. Western imperialism and China’s socialist market economy express clear, demonstrable differences when it comes to foreign policy like this.
that hospitals are Hamas
Chinese “imperialism”: “As agreed, we have built a railway in your country. We won’t charge interest on the debt, and we might just forgive it entirely.”
American imperialism: Bombs schools, drone strikes weddings, assassinates leaders, blockades countries for decades
Liberals being so illiterate they think imperialism is when country does stuff outside it’s borders.
-Kautsky about Lenin, 1916
Too many marxists take a kautskyite position on imperialism (its a set of policies a state can decide to choose or not choose) instead of lenin’s position (its a whole era of capitalism predicated on monopolies and exporting capital)
Somehow that doesn’t apply to the US according to the same liberals.
outside it’s borders.
That’s very generous of you. Most of what they call “imperialism” is stuff that China does within its own borders.
MEN WITH HIGH IQ SMELL OWN FARTS, STUDY FINDS
GUYS IQ IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD MEASURE FOR INTELLECT, TOTALLY DISREGARD MATERIAL CONDITIONS!!!
My brain must be massive
All the water in it means I look like
irl.
As everyone knows, imperialism is when you have a civil war and win but the opposing side manages to keep an island and you want that island back.
Imperialism is when a country puts military bases in all of your neighboring countries, including an island that was once part of your country, and constantly threatens you, and so you build ships to defend yourself.
You’re all being so disingenuous. Imperialism is when you get colonized and partitioned so you lose control of your peripheral mountainous areas, and then you come back and liberate the slaves but make a weird monk sad because he lost all his slaves.
We don’t know what bad thing China did because they’re hiding it from us.
And it MUST be worse because they feel the need to hide it
Soviet Union: researches psychic phenomenon, realizes it’s bullshit and stops after a few years.
USA: Learns about the Soviet experiments, does MKULTRA in response.
ot, but I don’t think this post is worth discussing anyway: Do other instances just don’t have any emojis?
Lemmygrad had a few until someone shot their pictrs server
, now they have almost none.Beehaw has some bees
Blahaj has more than I remember seeing last time I logged in
oh wow, blahaj actually has a lot. Btw, lemmy-emojies can be used to check what emojies an instance has without an account.
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I forget about your extension because I’m almost always on mobile
It’s definitely a lot more than I remember them having! I know db0 has some too, but don’t have an account there to check which, and the only computer I have handy right now is a work laptop that’s not about to
It… uh… “works” on android firefox too if need be, but it was never made with android in mind.
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Unfortunately, I can’t even get “works”
Nope, it’s a Hexbear thing
Must be a joyless existence
What even is the point supposed to be? That ‘bad imperialism’ is NATO doing genocides in your country, while ‘good imperialism’ is China building railways and hospitals in your country? You can mess up the semantics if you want but it doesn’t exactly make me think China evil.
To play the devils advocate, if the only choice is Imperialism why not choose Chinese style imperialism? Please do conquest through economics and trade not bombs, if this is the best we can hope for then please just do that.
You know poor people do have phones with internet these days and see the memes too now right? Even rural Chinese villages have smartphones with internet and they know how to go online.
This propaganda is so dogshit it doesn’t make China look bad, it makes Imperialism sound good.
Please do conquest through economics and trade not bombs, if this is the best we can hope for then please just do that.
The thing is, US (and Europe) does conquest through economics and trade too, via the IMF, WTO, World Bank, and similar institutions. It’s absolutely brutal. They loan foreign money (like USD or euro) to countries who need help, but then these counties lose control over their debt because it’s in a foreign currency. Attached with these loans are strict rules about how to run your state after usually related to austerity, like what happened to Greece and many states in Africa.
The terms of these loans are such that they are forced to destroy their own economic and political structures. They have to do things like destroy their welfare states, privatize their own natural resources and sell it to foreign firms, prioritize paying back loans over investing in their people, forced to organize their governments for the West and against communism, things like that.
China is very different. First, they’ve forgiven lots of loans given out. In addition, even when they don’t, their BRI projects provide infrastructure that actually helps bring in more money, while Western loans make you strip the copper from your own state’s walls usually causing you to bring in less money after. They also come with a lot less rules and more generous terms to pay it back. So they’re even different in the way they do “economic imperialism”, if you want to call it that.
The thing is, US (and Europe) does conquest through economics and trade too, via the IMF, WTO, World Bank, and similar institutions. It’s absolutely brutal. They loan foreign money (like USD or euro) to countries who need help, but then these counties lose control over their debt because it’s in a foreign currency. Attached with these loans are strict rules about how to run your state after usually related to austerity, like what happened to Greece and many states in Africa.
Noting though, that the West can do those things because of the threat of military option, not to mention the coups that have made the receptive government possible. The West is an organized crime family running a protection racket vs China building a symbiotic relation with other countries.
Like, being able to explain this shit still comes down to your audience acknowledging the difference between 2 consenting countries making a business deal and one country with a gun to its head ceding sovereignty to the global north.
True. The economic imperialism is a direct result of their military might and espionage.
I really need to read that book. It’s hard to explain this stuff to people but it really does explain why a lot of countries are poor and others rich.
Admittedly, I haven’t read it myself, yet. 🤫 He’s gotta bunch of good talks/interviews on it though. This one is probably the most concise.
https://michael-hudson.com/2015/12/super-imperialism-in-84-seconds/
The whole interview is well worth the listen imo.
Excellent point. Thank you!
It’s honestly difficult to remain rational with so many contradictions occurring around me. This is worse than 1984 why in the world did they teach me how to think if they don’t want me to do that. It’s just endless psychic damage
Well from what I’ve heard, they’ve learned their lesson and are now trying not to teach kids to do that so much lol. (More in some states than others, but still.)
The really funny part is that the whole “lesser evil” is completely throw out of the window when they speak about China.
Okay let’s assume China is doing imperialism. How choose China is different them voting for Kamala shitlibs?
Person1: “Do you want Trump genociding more or Kamala trying to end genocide(heh)?”
Based person: “I want no genocide”
Person1: “TANKIE!!!”
Person1: “Do you want America imperialism or China imperialism?”
Person2: “I want China imperialism”
Person1: “TANKIE!!!”
You must support the lesser evil
No not like that, not with those untrustworthy asians
Nobody really believes in lesser evilism, it’s just that people are willing to compromise as long as it’s not crossing a line.
Genocide isn’t a moral line for them. Defending a rival state is.
Big “stop hitting yourself” energy to their IQ fetish this time around.
:glasses-off: Men with higher IQs are less conservative, study finds
:glasses-on: DON’T THINK
:glasses-off: Bad Imperialism / Good Imperialism
:glasses-on: STAY IGNORANT
“I know you are but what am I?” final boss.
My Year in Mensa is a podcast series about how the social group specifically built around individuals that score well on IQ tests has been taken over by a bunch of Trump-loving libertarian 4-chan-adjacent edgelords.
Jamie Loftus is literally my biggest parasocial crush maybe ever and sometimes I feel like mentioning it on the internet will help reduce the shame of being “one of those people” but I’m really not sure if it’s helping so maybe I am just sad :(
It’s cool, I feel the same way
My podcast app says it’s four eps, is that the one?
Yep, it’s a quick listen.
