They wrote this essay only because a one poweruser left, lol
It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I’ve been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie “ideology” for months now.
I know @ptz@dubvee.org was speaking of general toxicity, but the Triad is a huge chunk of it, the culture they create…festers it. They comprise the bulk of the hostility, I’ve personally seen it over and over and over again. All the “Just go back to Reddit” or “just another lib Redditor refugee” comments for someone that dared to have nuance.
Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee’s shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/“They didn’t perfectly agree with me” instance. They call feddit.org a “Nazi Zionist” instance for the crime…of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law…
I haven’t looked to see if they’ve started any “celebratory” posts about Dubvee yet and I also don’t really want to, if they’re there, I already know what they’re going to say in it -_-
Unfortunately, I fear the problem was far worse than I thought.
Ptz speculated that the toxicity has “metastasized”. And you know what? He might be right, it seemed to be a lot better off 2 years ago, now…now I feel we might be losing the battle against the toxicity and I don’t think PieFed will be enough. Complacency has set in
My hope was that with enough instances defederating from .ml and the rest of the Triad, it would be a tad easier to take down toxic Tankies, trolls and their alts. But, few wanted to burn the bridge with the toxic main devs’ instance and now it might be too late. (Cheers to @Illecors@lemmy.cafe and the lemmy.cafe instance, one of the few of note to actually defederate from the entire triad!)
Like ptz said and I fully agree with, this place started with promise 2 years ago, but it appears to be ultimately morphing into 4chan (or like I’ve been saying, Voat 2.0) after all
Oh well, I’ve got some thick ass skin so I’ll probably be here till the end, till the last sane instance shuts down.
I’ll see you there @dessalines@lemmy.ml
/Sadmemerant
Heck, maybe I’ll do a hail Mary and start an instance on a custom fork of lemmy with “normie proof” onboarding while dumping a few hundred in ADs (Maybe even on Reddit itself, HA!). I’ll flood this place with “normies” LMAO
imagine if you had to write a long essay about how this is the end of hexbear everytime a poweruser left
we are a Nazi bar, showcasing tankie philosophy and various other purity tests
Everyone has their own purity tests, which nobody can seem to pass. There is FAR too much USA politics on Lemmy (and I’m speaking as an American citizen).
I remember being so confused when I first joined, because I saw the hexbear communities constantly posting insane stuff like hoping Biden would die, or using “lib” as an insult, and I assumed they were a conservative instance.
Libs cant stand the purity test of being anti-genocide
Libs are so fixated on the tyranny of purity tests that this one doesn’t understand that the Nazi bar, as a malus, is literally the opposite kind of thing, where the problem is being permissive. Just fucking chirping whatever phrases of bad things that they happen to think of.
imagine if you had to write a long essay about how this is the end of hexbear everytime a poweruser left
No need to imagine. This used to happen regularly
remember the several hundred comment post about UlyssesT?
You mean the guy who killed Kissinger?
Wow you reminded me I have not had a recent update on the rationalism people.
I have no idea what drama is happening in Star Citizen now
Dw I will have literal devastating wounds and will post through it
Like ptz said and I fully agree with, this place started with promise 2 years ago, but it appears to be ultimately morphing into 4chan (or like I’ve been saying, Voat 2.0) after all
Weird, my account is 5 years old.
i just realized mine is gonna be 5 years old next january too. Didn’t realize it had been that long lol. Why do they think lemmy is 2 years old tho? im confused.
Its been 2 years since the reddit migrations so to them thats when lemmy started
Are they seriously so self centered they just assume the site started when they showed up? Thats… wow.
some do think hexbear just suddently appeared one day, so yes they probably think lemmy went live when they migrated here
I wonder if that’s why they always have these conspiracy narratives about armies of alts - “can’t be other people, must be single bad actors botting”
America was discovered in 1492
Others have pointed out that was when the great reddit migration took place, but also I just clicked the link and this person is some Tankie obsessed loser. They are not a serious person.
Syril Karn was an actual threat to Andor tho.
Cm0002 has been shadowboxing lemmy.ml for months to no end other than the annoyance of their fellow radlibs.
Syril Karn was an actual threat to Andor tho.
Eh, for like a second. Grand scheme of things they’re both just know nothing little boot licker tools who haven’t the slightest clue how the world is working around them.
That fuck cm000002 and PugJesus are by far the biggest and most annoying trolls on this platform
thats when they joined due to the reddit thing
Same. 😩
complying with German law
Yeah I wonder why communists would have a problem with that
What the fuck are these people talking about.
You’re not federated with us. You don’t fucking see anything unless you specifically come here.
Fuck off. Stop coming to communities you don’t like and you won’t see people telling you that your takes are consistently morally abhorrent and that you are terrible treat piggies brought up by even more terrible treat piggies in the imperial core of a horrific empire whose livings standards are achieved by exploiting 80% of the world and holding back the development of billions and billions of people so that they can continue to be exploited and their resources stolen for profits to be imported into the core so you can sit in your cozy armchair provided by blood and skulls where you tell us that we’re the problem for pointing this out. You consider us “toxic” because you don’t want to be reminded that your lives are provided by blood. It makes you feel guilty. You prefer to forget it because you feel powerless about it and don’t want to feel like a bad person for trying to ignore it. This causes you deep discomfort because you fucking know we’re right. If you didn’t think we were right you wouldn’t feel anything over this. We would just be a footnote. Not a constant thing boring into the guilty conscience in part of your brain day in day out preventing you from forgetting we exist.
Fuck off liberal.
They’ve convinced themselves that anyone who disagrees with them is a secret tankie alt hellbent on sowing disunity across the fediverse. It’s really convenient since they can avoid ever having to admit they were in the wrong about something. In reality I would be shocked if even a tenth of the regular posters here made alts to post on those instances. Only the most masochistic users and the most determined lib converters could tolerate reading the awful things these people post every day.
I literally do not visit these people. I do not care about them. They think they are far more important than they actually are.
Why the fuck would I waste my time disagreeing with people that don’t think Israel is all bad 2 years into a genocide when I can be managing communities that get 10million+ visitors per week? Or making stupid tiktoks that sometimes get fucking millions of views in just 24 hours? They’re literally a complete and total waste of time. What impact would I be having by arguing with them every day via alts? Fuck all. We decided to just ban all harry potter nerds on a fucking whim with no real intentions and accidentally caused an internet-wide drama that resulted in mainstream media reporting on “the boycott” (lmao), there’s so many better ways to generate massive impact that don’t involve arguing with debate perverts on servers with a few tens of thousands of members.
They’ve convinced themselves that they’re important when they’re not. The real political theater of operations are the platforms filled with people whose brains haven’t been cooked by propaganda, or in spaces where media heads are using as cultural touchposts to take cues for stories. It’s not fucking liberal instances on lemmy.
Why the fuck would I waste my time disagreeing with people that don’t think Israel is all bad 2 years into a genocide
I classify my time spent interacting with most of the power users there as a form of self-harm which I try to minimize, generally.
I don’t get the alt fixation with so many users, the first thing that I ran into starting on lemmy was getting accused of being a hexbear alt. I mean I made an account here eventually, but more as a consequence of all the fearmongering than anything else.
a form of self-harm which I try to minimize, generally
Yes exactly.
My time is spent on the people that I can actually turn into socialists.
There is absolutely zero point in spending any time whatsoever in a space full of idiots that will never, ever, ever become socialists. My filter for whether someone is a waste of my time or not is whether they think there’s a genocide happening right now. I immediately stop communicating with anyone that indicates otherwise, they are a total waste of time, most of them are committed liars and the rest are gullible fools.
They now position themselves as being oh-so-opposed to genocide but also extremely concerned about the equivalent ‘genocides’ that all of America’s enemies are doing. Then calling anyone who pushes back on equating those things a fascist tankie.
It’s a total waste of time, none of them are sway-able.
this place started with promise 2 years ago,
Oh we’ve been around way longer than that
Also lmao at this dweeb not realizing dessalines is a commie
They do, they have lead a big campaign against him calling for a “boycott” of lemmy.ml, all they have achieved is making people angry at them for stealing posts and havent moved any comm outside of ml (they are currently in their 3rd palestine comm)
What a toxic little freak
There’s inevitably going to be a split between us and the redditeur instances, it’s only a matter of time.
Probably around an election or something.
Idk, i think that an internal conflict between the ultralibs and the socdems its more posible, since they have slowly turn on dbzero and blahaj for not being bluemaga, and since we and grad arent federated with the big lib instances they will probably focus more on dbzero and blahaj
Firing up the presses to get my “where did that bring you? back to me” PPB edits ready.
We’re just gonna be chillin in our commie nuclear triad 😎
It’s gonna be whenever(if) they get their fork/rebuild of lemmy in Java done.
Or maybe will give up on that and jump fully on piefed?
Piefed definitely seems to be winning the alt-lemmy race currently. There are a lot of them in that thread too
hexbear is undefeated in the marketplace of ideas
I haven’t looked to see if they’ve started any “celebratory” posts about Dubvee yet and I also don’t really want to, if they’re there, I already know what they’re going to say in it -_-
No clue what Dubvee is. If this nerd is sad that it’s gone, then it’s probably good that it’s gone.
Blaming Hexbear and Grad for the downfall of an instance that’s not federated with either of us is a good bit.
I guess we aimed our cyber Havana Syndrome guns at them until they
All dubvee got was me making fun of them on one comment in the mega
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im guessing the “triad” is .ml lemmygrad, and hexbear
It is, but Tankie Triad is so bad when Tankie Troika is right there. Just phoning it in.
Plus the tankies actually arrested, killed or expelled the Triads from the mainland, pushing them to Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan or overseas. It makes less sense the more you think about it.
I thought that the Triads only really existed there in the first place and the crime organizations on the mainland were called something else.
The Tongs don’t exist on the mainland, that might be what you’re talking about about
They don’t know that word and I say, good
They shouldn’t
Tankie Triumvirate.
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TANKRANGLE!
It was a place where one person made their own instance to simply make everything their own. Which is fine but the they got mad when others using or interacting with said instance didn’t like their vision.
Or just hated people questioning their moderation on their world alt?
I hate that I know this but it was one of the first accounts I blocked
my hypothesis that gen Xers and elder millennials are the only people who know how to use the internet continues to be proven right.
People who know what a modem is.
You mean a computer? /s
Tech literacy peaks at Xennials and it goes downhill in either direction.
Blaming Hexbear for all your woes when Lemmy.world has never even federated with us is just the perfect spectre analogy. “The fact that commies are just chilling out somewhere is a threat to our existence!”
Lemmy just another victim of communism smdh
For people who love animal farm, they sure don’t seem quick to draw the obvious parallel between Hexbear and Snowball in their view of online happenings. Yeah man, we sabotaged your windmill that we didn’t know existed until it fell down.
I’ll flood this place with “normies” LMAO
You couldn’t flood a basement
Holy shit Toxic Tankie Triad sounds sick as hell
It’s definitely too late for calling it “threadiverse,” nobody calls it that.
They don’t even call Threads threadiwhatever
I am all over any post of the “i am having a bad time online because of the tankies” genre
