• TheLastHero [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    my gulf state neighbor told me Iranians keep blowing up his tankers so I asked how many tankers he has and he said he just goes to the American naval base and gets a new tanker afterwards so I said it sounds like he’s just feeding tankers to the Iranians and then his American milliary advisor started crying

  • MarxMadness [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’m not an expert in missiles, but it seems like a strait that’s 24 mi / 39 km at its narrowest makes it easier for a neighboring country to shoot missiles at ships and harder for those ships to defend themselves.

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      Born too late to be blown up by an Improvised Explosive Device. Born too early to be blown up by a Chinese Orbital Laser. Born just in time to be blown up by a secondary explosion from an oil tanker.

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    Somebody let me know if he actually sends escorts there. I need at least a week to buy enough booze for an “end of US hegemony” party.

  • Noodles4dinner [none/use any]@hexbear.net
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    Marco Rubio said at his press conference today that the aircraft carrier from the iconic music video for Cher’s “If I Could Turn Back Time” will be used for this purpose.

  • >it is 1807 and the enemy just sank the USS Chesapeake, the US decides to enter the war
    >it is 1898 and the enemy just sank the USS Maine, the US decides to enter the war
    >it is 1915 and the enemy just sank the USS Lusitania, the US decides to enter the war
    >It is 1941 and the enemy just sank the USS Oklahoma, the US decides to enter the war
    >it is 1964 and the enemy just attacked the USS Maddox (allegedly), the US decides to enter the war
    >it is 2026 and the enemy just sank the USS Missouri, the US decides to enter the war

    I have had it with these boat wars.

    • ajab [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Of course it can. It’s American tax dollars that he’s burning to protect private (i.e not yours) corpo profits.

    • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Many US ships do have anti-missile systems. It would need to be the right kind of ships obviously, carriers can perform this obvious, aegis cruisers are specialized at it so they can as well. And enough or the right kind of missiles can get through much of the time.

      It will be really interesting to see if Iran can make good on its threats in a sustained way. If they can the US is in a pretty bad spot in a lot of ways. Still I expect the US will goad a couple of ships to try, if even some ships get through Trump will be leaning heavily on those countries to keep the ships running even if they’re taking losses. At a certain point the countries will likely get a spine and explain ship replacement lead times are too much and they have to stop sending them because if they don’t they’ll be stuck with inadequate shipping capacity for years after this conflict. At that point we really enter the cool zone.

        • MarxMadness [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Iran might have hypersonics? Trying to remember the news I’ve seen in the past few years, and of course the secrecy makes the magin of error huge.

          If they do, I can see a few reasons for not using them already:

          1. Maybe they don’t have a bunch, and think they can fight off the U.S. without using them. And if they use them all and the U.S. keeps at it, that’s not good.
          2. Maybe they are less “guaranteed” and more “high success,” and the odds of success improve if you deplete a bunch of anti-missle defenses first.
          3. Iran is fighting two nuclear-armed countries that have very recently shown they don’t care about civilian deaths at all. Trading Tehran for an aircraft carrier is not something Iran wants to do.
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          I would imagine that hypersonic missiles have reduced payload. I don’t know if the physicis situation behind them is widely known. It doesn’t seem to be talked about in the same way conventional arms are