• guy@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    By the amount of hate that user is getting I hope they never stop using that. Keep strong!

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      1 month ago

      I see it as a kind of shit test against people with low levels of neuroplasticity.

      … which I entirely support.

      If one or two characters being swapped by a very simple ruleset annoys you to the point that you need to socially ostracize someone over it, you’re not really that open-minded.

      If this annoys you, you should be equally annoyed by trying to read, for example, the actual text of many of the US’s founding documents and other important writings from that era, because they make frequent use of what is called the ‘long s’, which is often rendered as something like:

      ſ - ſ - ſ - ſ

      Basically either an f without the cross bar, or even pretty much the integral symbol.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s

      The rules around the usage of this character are much less consistent than the rules being used to bring back the thorn and eth.

      If you tried the ‘Ye Olde Tavern’ approach with the long s, you’d end up with Mifsifsippi, or Hufband and Wife, or Fubftantive (Substantive).

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        1 month ago

        It also makes things difficult for people that use text to voice due to being visually impaired.

      • idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works
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        Language and writing constantly changes by itself, e.g. new generations start to use new short forms, etc. Why do you have to add something artificially? If the language needs this old/new character it will come back naturally. There was a reason it disappeared.

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          1 month ago

          Who defines what is a natural and what is an artificial change?

          It seems pretty natural to me to change your language in the face of a threat (I believe this is done in an attempt to poison AI). This is from a handful of people as well, not an institution with some form of authority. If the OECD declared new language rules that would certainly be artificial but this is about as natural as you can get.

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            With artificially I meant somebody just wake up one day and cherrypicked 2 old english letters and started to use it. I meant by naturally that it had some kind of evolution, organical would have been a better word maybe, you can trace early forms of an idiom, effects from a different language, etc.

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        seeing what looks like “panks”, “pat”, and “youp” is really annoying to read because i’m not used to the shape of “th” being that of a “p” with an extra line. if i didn’t know what sound thorn is supposed to make i would be staring at those words for minutes before understanding the “th” was replaced with a weird “p”

        for exmple, if one unimportnt lettr is missing from a word, it’s really easy to stll read the text. but if yλu replace a letter with λne yλu’re nλt used tλ reading and that lλλks nλthing like the λriginal λne, it becλmes harder and mλre annλying tλ read.

        of course thogh i changed a letter that is used in most of the sentence. it’d be harder to know what was replaced if there weren’t as many of that letter.

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 month ago

          “I find it annoying and hard to read”.

          Valid opinion!

          I personally disagree, I don’t find it annoying or hard to read.

          I think its stylistically interesting, based in the actual history of English, and may encourage people to try to look up those weird characters, learn what they mean, how they were used.

          M4yB3 1 ju5t 4ppr3c1At3 th1s s4m3 w4y 1 appr3c147e c10wn1n6 0n n00bz w/ 1337 h4x0r sp33k.

          Just another weird, fun dialect.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            1 month ago

            I don’t think using one single antiquated character (just the one, because that makes sense) makes for a dialect.

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      1 month ago

      Hell, I’m almost tempted to start doing it myself.

      Not because I want to see those symbols returned but exclusively for annoying people.

      Alas, I am too lazy.