cherry picking

That’s the “tu quoque”, aka “you too” argument evasion

Down with the empire! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriathus

In 2014, the United States imperialist empire with the CIA supported a coup of a democratically elected president. This gave rise to ultra-nationalist elements in the country to come to power. Some might call these people Neo-Nazis. A liberal perspective is ignoring the fact that the United States is an imperialist empire. A liberal perspective is ignoring the fact that the United States is an imperialist empire. That now is pulling back from its soft power and moving more towards, I would say, hard power. We will live in an age of normalizing tactical nukes which are lower yield. We will continue bombing the shit out of poor people while playing both sides. Neoliberalism is a right-wing ideology. It was an attempt to end all wars by putting them on pause. But I would think because you’re alive now and you’re capable of using the internet, you would realize that we live in the era of asymmetrical warfare and proxy wars. The world relies on global trade, but now that the rich have hoarded the wealth so like all wars, All wars are banker wars, but yet there is no war but the class war. In America, we only have a service-based economy. So the only way we can produce income, other than working at a cheeseburger stand, for vapid, useful idiots of empire, is to join the military and resign ourselves to being a part of a machine that murders and commits genocide. There is a song called Love Me Love Me, I’m a liberal. And if you actually listen to the lyrics, you will realize that history is repeating itself. Depending on how young you are, you might be forced into the military sooner or later. I would learn about the opium wars and then think about how China maybe is giving us a dose of our own medicine. I would also look up the Imperial Boomerang. Or also what the military uses “blowback”. It’s up to you if you want to be a snarky liberal or some cultish tanky but at the end of the day we are reaching the singularity. We live in the lowest common denominator and the likes of Edward Bernays or maybe look up Alan Dulles you will soon realize that you live in a world that’s merely but a dream. We are master’s manage perception. We live in North Korea with the mixture of say like Disneyland but without your wallet. With Israel, there will be a pullback optically to make it seem that we’re upset with what they’re doing. But in reality, we are working in the background, handling all the background round processes and even boots on the ground. If you do not have nuclear weapons, you do not have national sovereignty, especially when because of Trump and because of Biden, sleepy, limp dick what was left of the rules-based order is completely gone. The rich will use us as pawns, and you are probably a liberal who is playing the role of useful idiot. You can, if you’d like, go online and look up the left and right paradigm. People outside of the United States, like in Europe, view us as solely a right-wing country. But we’re interesting because we’re in imperialist power. Which makes it glaringly obvious if you have full spectrum understanding that capitalism is not a long-term strategy. The world hates us and fears us because of our brutality. During World War II, the United States financed and supported Hitler. This was an attempt to weaken the Russians. And then after the war, the Catholic Church and the United States government trafficked Nazis all over the world even look up Operation Gladio. But they also sent them to South America and to the United States to work on our rocket program to fight the Russians. Now China and Russia are both capitalist countries and now communism, any little inkling of, is completely eradicated and it seems that capitalism causes a tremendous amount of violence. Now, if you look at the money supply, hyperinflation, we are synthesizing ourselves down to the lowest common denominator. We do not have any money in the system to do anything because we funnel it all to our military, which is somewhat a socialist entity in that people join the military because their poor. But even the military and the veterans are treated like shit after their service… Which is kind of funny to me Because you basically joined a volunteer army and somehow your ignorance somehow makes you not culpable for murdering people in other countries. It blows my mind. I Mean these people are somewhat victims as well as victimizers, but at the root of it, it’s the lack of self-awareness possibly reading comprehension or just even motivation due to a lethargic mind. I have lived on this planet long enough to know we are living in a spectrum of decline and things are not going to get better. I also know when I was younger I had stupid opinions and as I got older those opinions changed. I’m not too interested in the lingo of the internet, but more combating disinformation. Also, I’m not a big fan of China’s president or Russia’s president. And you have to remember they are capitalistic and they probably have imperialist ambitions. They probably would like to be the next hegemon. Anyways, it’s a can of worms and everybody’s askew. When I see bad things happen in this country or Abroad., I’m not like, oh my god, the humanity. I’m more like, oh that makes sense. Why don’t you give this document a gander and enrich yourself to a more mature viewpoint. Cheers https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf

I remember reading that list years and years ago and thinking how petty it was that so much effort has gone into it.

Now I’m a little bit worried about how far ahead of the game these cunts are.

If the 20% they don’t support is the absolute most basic of human rights, then as far as I can tell they actually support 0% of what I want.

I agree 100% with the purity test thing, but “liberal” ≠ leftist. That’s not a purity thing, it’s a “words have specific definitions” thing.

I know idiot tankies say this, and I know they are annoying when they constantly use “liberal” as an insult… But it is technically correct that they are two distinct ideologies (with some overlap).

Politicians you don’t like can make good policies and politicians you do like can make bad policies. Parties are not football teams for you to take blind sides and politicians are not celebrities to be veneered blindly. They are public servants, nothing more.

It’s a global phenomenon, but Americans are particularly affect by the false dichotomy fallacy of having the two sides of political spectrum represented when, in reality, they just have two flavors of right to choose from. Both are shit in their own way.

People love to turn off their brains and follow the leadership. That’s what makes us easily manipulable. It’s not because someone aligns politically with you that they are working with your best interest in mind.

Sorry for the random rambling.

genocide is not something you negotiate away. Some things arent for sale. If you choose to whore for those sweet sweet zionist paychecks, thats on you. Dont project that vileness on others.

Was this supposed to be a demonstration of projection? If so, well done.

I thought it was called “whataboutism”?

A fallacy matters if it’s central to proving the argument, otherwise it probably doesn’t. Eg Bringing up an anecdote, or a subjective experience as a way of illustrating a point could be said to be fallacious, but is not, if the argument is well supported enough that would stand without it.

I just had an argument where I ended my point with the words “this is a pure could have been:” and added a very likely scenario that may well could have come to pass it some events were different. Obviously it was speculation and not central to the previous argument, but in my estimation likely.

Then other person instead of responding to actual points took the last part and accused me of should’a, would’a, could’a.

Dude, yes! But not the point, also I was the one that pointed it out. The type of person that would explain to a comedian their own joke.

Man that’s such a strawman, you’re completely misrepresenting why they bring up fallacies.

Is there a fallacy fallacy? where people assume that because something has a fallacy its wrong, or they accuse something of having a non-existant fallacy?

That may or may not be a technique.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf

Cherry pick and move the goal post.

For example:

University-level essays? You know for-profit universities exist, right? If you don’t have a masters degree on the subject, then you have no right to speak on the topic.

I believe that’s “whataboutism”?

This is a good one. The use of fallacies doesn’t necessarily void an argument, it just fails to support it logically.

For example, I could craft a perfect, clean, cold-cut argument so water-tight and beautiful that even ben-fucking-shapiro would have a come-to-jesus. Calling my opponent a “dickhead” at the end (ad hominem) doesn’t prove anything, but it doesn’t nullify the entire rest of the argument either. Plus it’s fun.