Its horrendous, my work windows laptop the amount of crap just loading at startup is getting stupid.
Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it’s time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds… Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.
Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you’re waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.
Yeah, straight back 15-20 years ☕😋
The invention of ssds was not to speed up computers, but to allow us to have more unwanted stuff autostart.
The same with the incredibly powerful CPUs and huge amounts of RAM we all have now. These are little supercomputers, and everything in Windows takes longer than it did 25 years ago on machines with a tiny fraction of the power.
and to install ‘mandatory’ giant bloated updates faster…
and to reboot faster after crashes (which may or may not have been caused by the above updates)…
I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.
when i set up a new pc i warn the users moving from really old ones that their coffee-fetching and bagel toasting time is about to shrink to zero.
Oh definitely. Its shut down every day, has a dedicated dock in the home office, and I open it at 9am.
Thats when I get my coffee and snack. Its just surprising how much longer I can sit and sip before starting now.
Including all the analytics gathering windows has to run on startup. What a pain.
“Nah man you just need a little more AI bullshit crammed into all your apps.” -Microsoft, probably
They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you “close” it.
Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.
Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.
This is why I’m glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).
Wait is the stupid lag in Word because it’s running on Electron now??? That explains so much.
Edit: after a little bit of searching, it looks like it just loads webview2 to avoid having to load it if you open any of the add-in search panels. So the lagginess of new word is just inexcusable.
that bit you can turn off in edge settings… but the webview engine stays because of widgets and probably some other bullshit.
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Ive got 16gb in the work-provided machine… And I can safely say that more than half is just autostart crap.
Since I only use it for messaging/email, I don’t much care tbh. Just kind of a fun to note for the laughs though.
Install Linux. Use OpenOffice. Problem solved.
Don’t use OpenOffice, it’s nearly unmaintained, use LibreOffice
LibeOffice, OnlyOffice, all great apps
libreoffice. which has also had a similar feature for years.
afaik onlyoffice has financial connections to russia, fyi
Libreoffice, OpenOffice was abandoned when oracle bought it
You’re right. Sorry, my age is showing showing. LOL
Why are people using word processors at all ? They’re only used to print letters on paper.
I’m forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin
Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.
Yep, it’s quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.
Agree, especially switching between tabs is sooooooo slow
And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.
Interestingly they did the same with Word 97: loaded Office at startup so the individual Office applications would seem to launch faster.
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There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.
Of course it’s slow, it’s full of telemetry, spyware and built-in AI junk, it couldn’t be any different
They shouldn’t have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90’s computer.
Moore gives. Billiam takes.
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They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this “extra room”, as it were?
They’ll move office straight into the window kernel.
All of this while Excel is still stuck in 1997 in terms of functionality.
So are bicycles. They do a thing and they do it well.
Nonsense, Excel is extremely bad at analyzing and visualizing data. The whole point of Excel is ease of use, cell reference, etc. Now make 10 graphs with different ranges, different axis ranges, etc. good luck. It is a whole lot of useless clicking, with open tabs like axis ranges of course always resetting to the line formatting. It is exactly like it was 20 years ago with zero improvement. You can still NOT simply input a cell with a value into the axis range to make it automatic.
Windows already takes far to long to load. I turn on my Linux PC and by time I stand up to get a coffee it’s ready to go, then I remember it’s Saturday and I won’t be using Windows 11 all blessed day!
Didn’t they start doing that decades ago? Did they stop at some point?
it’s been a long time but i vaguely remember an office tray icon or desktop toolbar or something that could run all the time.
nowadays, windows caching and prefetch should be more than enough… and that’s not even considering the fast ssd we have now, either.
Coming soon to your neck of the woods… Copilot OS! Now with no Windows, only Copilot and a shitty embedded MS Edge. Everything you know as Windows is hidden behind an enforced Microsoft account which you cannot bypass or opt-out! Oh—and don’t forget—you now need a PC with 64GB DDR6789 RAM, RBG+ chipset with tiny peener cache, 2 BRAIN TRACING GPUs, SUPER SECURE BOOT, TrustClock, Lie Detector, Bio-metric reader created by NSA, and their secret time bomb tracker that will secretly ghost all your data at a moments notice and require you to purchase the subscription to ALL STAR MEGA SUPER SONIC ULTRA CLOUD DATA WAREHOUSE. Oh, but hey, at least it’s software upgradable…
CTRL-ALT-DELETE - Task Manager - Click the little fuel gauge on the left hand side to access and disable startup items.
Copilot? Disabled.
Microsoft 365 Copilot? Disabled.
Teams? Disabled.
Microsoft To Do? Disabled.
OneDrive? Disabled.
Phone Link? Disabled.
Xbox? Disabled.Just add one more to the list…
Ctrl-shift-esc opens task manager directly.
True, but whenever Windows is having a mini-meltdown the NMI from the three finger salute is often enough to jar it out of its fixation. Plus my computer has learnt that if I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del 30 times the next time is the big red switch.
The direct shortcut for opening task manager actually also had special handling for problematic situations. This includes low memory and high CPU.
I’ve had situations where the direct shortcut worked, but ctrl-alt-delete didn’t. Never had the opposite.
OfficeClickToRun.exeis years and years old. This isn’t a new thing at all.that’s the c2r maintenance process. main job is to set up and update the local files for office.
It’s a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.
