• pachrist@lemmy.world
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    No, it’s not.

    It’s an acknowledgement that there’s a massive problem.

    These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.

    We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn’t act surprised that it still happens. I don’t think we should celebrate it, because it’s sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.

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      Thats exactly how I feel “Its sad that this is looking like the solution”

      Like, it had to come to this? You couldnt just set up your little racket and keep the golden goose fat and happy? Or atleast adequately provided for and left alone?

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      Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

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        I’ve read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there’s a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

        Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn’t happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people…it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

        That’s not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

        Otherwise, I’m confused where “radicalized” comes from.

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          At first there were a lot of things floating around with people claiming to somehow have gotta access. Lot of sick fucks out there want to push an agenda.

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        “Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?” “Fuck yeah, bud” “Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal”

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          Hey, hey, let’s not bring the H man into this. It’s not like the US is rounding up immigrants into concentration camps and making them work to pay off their deportation fees so that the US can have its slave labor without being dependent on China because we are at war over Taiwan……

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            I didn’t bring Hitler into this. “Literal Hitler” is an analogy, a character, not the real thing.

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    Anyone with half a brain can see that it isn’t “glorifying” violence, it’s merely giving an explanation of why Luigi did what he did. Glorification would play more into pathos, but the manifesto is mostly ethos

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      the most dangerous thing to a government isn’t the people. it’s not the external forces.

      it’s an idea so relatable to the public that the government loses containment of it and it spreads like fire in a grainery.

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      They didn’t ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

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        Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

        This whole time I can’t believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes. It’s as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

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    Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.

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        I started to realize that the thing I liked about Reddit were the analytical and thoughtful people like me on the platform. When I came here, I found that many came over. When I visit Reddit, either because I’m nostalgic or because I have a specific need for something there, I’m finding more and more recent posts that are mostly filled with trash. Sure, some of the insightful, thoughtful and analytical people are still hanging around, but the vast majority has shifted away from that type of person. Reddit has also become so mainstream that is a stone’s throw away from xitter or Facebook in terms of quality. Everyone and their mother is starting a Reddit account.

        I miss when old.reddit.com was just reddit.com.

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          I mean, stupidity and group think are just parts of having conversations in large groups as happens on these internet forums. I have not been impressed with the quality of intellect on Lemmy. But at least its not like Reddit where every mildly interesting subreddit has a minimum Karma count of like 30, and at least I’m not getting permabanned left and right over completely benign BS like saying I think Christianity is a net positive. I can say what I want here, and people can downvote it and I might even get mobbed… but at least I’m not being micromanaged.

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    Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

    The leader of the country once said: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts”

    So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

    “When the denying starts, the deposing starts” would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

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      You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don’t even admit this is a call for violence.

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      So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

      The reason violence against “looters” is permitted stems from their violation of the principles of the American caste system

      Contrary to popular belief, you are not allowed to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. You are only allowed to help yourself when you’ve received lending permission from a state recognized philanthropic sponsor. Otherwise, you are supposed to quietly drown in your own filth, where it isn’t inconvenient for anyone higher on the totem pole than you.

      The caste system is sacred. Brian Thompson earned his position. Luigi Mangione deserved his miserable fate.

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        I like that you put “looters” in quotes. After hurricane Katrina, the news would show “looters” and “people trying to survive,” taking food items from grocery stores. I wonder what the difference was?

        the difference

        Skin hue

        Yes, people were also taking electronics, but for food?

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      most CEOs don’t murder, even the health insurance ones simply are committing theft analogs, simply not funding healthcare, not preventing those than can independently afford it from accessing it.

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    note that reddit didn’t have a problem with “orks must die jokes” or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths

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      If only Thomas Jefferson had somehow managed to cap a member of English Royalty. Instead, then Jefferson crossed the pond to suck up to Louis XVI, shortly before the man went full Ropespierre’s Necktie.

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    In this case, I think of more like Guy Fawkes……there is clearly a problem with the us death care system. And we are right to be angry with these companies that profiteer on our sickness and in some cases that result in people dying from delayed or denied care. Is is right to murder someone? No, of course not. I think the question to ask is who is the real murderer?

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    Thank you for posting this. I’ve been curious about what he wrote.

    Shorter than some git commit messages. I’m a fan.

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    See, then you are giving a murderer’s message publicity. As opposed to UnitedHealthcare, responsible for far more many deaths, having the ability to have as much publicity and as many lobbyists as they want.

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      Alleged murderer.

      I think he is more than just the (relatively trivial) allegations against him. He has rallied support for massively reforming the American Healthcare system, which will save countless lives, improve our quality of life, and ensure the financial stability of the American Public.

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    No, it’s not. But there’s a general fear that spreading manifestos of terrorists could cause people to believe them. They did the same thing with Bin Laden’s manifesto.

    For the record, I oppose this, it’s just that I can understand why this sort of thing is done.

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    I be searching like this these days:

    <shit I am loking for> -site:www.reddit.com

    Fuck reddit. Fuck Spez and Fuck the police.