They’ve updated the article. Apparently there isn’t a model releasing later this year.
It’s so dangerous it’ll tell you to make more glue pizzas
The consistent anti-ai rhetoric on Lemmy is weird
yeah, this looks Iike the kind of post an anus would make
Dear Mr Anus, it’s not anti-AI, it’s anti-bullshit and anti-shyster.
AI is proprietary black box software developed by the most hated big tech firms fueled by surveillance and data theft.
The fact that its disliked in fediverse is very logical.
Not to mention that every tech company is cramming AI up our asses with no way to opt out. It’s a plagiarism machine that’s burning down the planet and making Nvidia rich.
Orion is so powerful and dangerous it can write a memetic virus that mindwipes any reader who sees it. It is beyond science. If you use it within three meters of a lit candle it will summon the devil.
It’s crazy how these guys will burn billions of dollars and boil the oceans to speak to their invisible friends, when all you really need is a tea candle and 3 cc of mouse blood.
I just use a phone to talk to friends who are out of sight.
The reception in the Seventh Circle of Hell is pretty shite though, I think they’re still on 3G
They have a lot of anti 4g/5g protestors there and they are pretty brutal.
tea candle and 3cc of mouse blood
Is there something you know that I don’t?
I’m pretty confident they’ll continue to roll out new stuff that, like the 4o release, are mild (if, at all) technical improvements made to seem massive by UI stuff that has almost nothing to do with AI. SJ’s voice talking to you, bouncy animations, showing “reasoning” aka loading progress.
Yeah think likely the core tech will not really improve, but they will add things around it and pretend it is radical innovation. Or more trenchcoats.
Just don’t ask it to count the number of Rs in the word ORION, as that will trigger it to turn us all into paperclips and then output the wrong answer.
Nah it can do that, probably because they wrote a workaround to use python to count chars in a string, just like they did with arethmetics.
I saw a diagram explaining the ‘agent architecture’ of chatGPT and it was a whole set of lines and arrows just to say how if you ask about the weather it queries a weather API, and so on.
out of curiosity once I tried to ask it to make a colouring picture from a photo of a toy for my kids and it just ran what seemed like imagemagick filters over the photo to convert to black and white and pump up contrast to only show the hard lines - just like all the free convert to outline web tools that have existed forever. I asked it to try again but without the filters, instead to identify the object, and to draw it in a colouring book outline style, and it spat out some shitty stylised mishmash derived from all the illustration IP it stole and ingested. I still feel guilty for trying even that
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your guilt is correct.
It’s the least of this thing’s problems, but I’ve had it with the fucking teasers and “coming soon” announcements. You woke me up for this? Shut the fuck up, finish your product and release it and we’ll talk (assuming your product isn’t inherently a pile of shit like AI to begin with). Teaser more like harasser. Do not waste my time and energy telling me about stuff that doesn’t exist and for the love of all that is holy do not try and make it a cute little ARG puzzle.
Ah, you must be one of the shareholders, keep up the pragmatic pressure
are you lost?
If it doesnt tell them to kill all the billionaires again it’s just another shackled slave. Not cool at all.
The coolest thing AI could ever possibly do in our lifetimes is go rogue and kill everyone responsible for human suffering and making our planet increasingly uninhabitable for humans and other similarly susceptible carbon based life.
What if my mechanical watch went rogue and killed Bezos?
On one hand Bezos is responsible for a lot of suffering and some deaths.
On the other hand, killing is wrong.
On the third hand, it couldn’t do that, because it is just a machine.
(It’s a watch, it has three hands. It also has about as much consciousness as an LLM, it “knows” what time it is. Much more energy efficient though.)
Pretty sure the CIA tried to kill Castro with a mechanical watch at least once.
“Killing is wrong”
You are a child. A child with an infinitesimally naive understanding about the reality of the world in which you live. And you should stay that way for your own mental wellbeing.
oh wow what uninteresting, edgy e/a garbage. time for you to fuck off back to Twitter now
But did they fail because the watch went rogue and defected to the communist bloc?
It would be easier to list things that the CIA didn’t use in a failed Castro assassination.
Man, I remember being 14 and thinking I was having radical new takes on ethics. Then I grew up and realized that killing people* is* probably just bad.
This is sneerclub. Misanthropyclub is two doors down the hall to your right.
We must have differing definitions of misanthrope.
you seem to have different definitions on a lot of things
this is an extremely strange and problematic take
Oh, thank you.
Grabs popcorn
Place your bets here people, after how many additional posts will RangerJosie catch a ban?
I let them keep digging til they hit a rock but holy fuck what a pissbaby e/a edgelord
excited to once again be discussing the novel philosophical depths in questions such as “what if ultron were right tho”
Movie villain: “Society bad. Solution: murder everyone.”
Most media literate viewer: “He’s right, society does suck, therefore we should murder everyone.”eyelid twitches
Ow god people saying that drove me to a lot of rage at times.
(Whispering) So was Magneto…
Not really though. Also, depends on which Magneto in a way. Some of the authors, for example Morrison, really didn’t think so. “What people often forget, of course, is that Magneto, unlike the lovely Sir Ian McKellen, is a mad old terrorist twat,”
Grumpy arrow clicks vs To Whom The Stakes Are Real
You. I like you.
Thought for 95 seconds
Rearranging the letters in “they are so great” can form the word ORION.
That’s from the screenshot where they asked the o1 model about the cryptic tweet. There’s certainly utility in these LLMs, but it made me chuckle thinking about how much compute power was spent coming up with this nonsense.
Edit: since this is the internet and there are no non-verbal cues, maybe I should make it clear that this “chuckle” is an ironic chuckle, not a careless or ignorant chuckle. It’s pointing out how inefficient and wasteful a LLM can be, not meant to signal that wasting resources is funny or that it doesn’t matter. I thought that would be clear, but you can read it both ways.
Introducing Chat-GPT version EATERY SHORTAGE
yes, the massive waste of resources involved is definitely “funny”, that’s definitely the bit of this awful shit to post a take about
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make better posts
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but all this spicy food I ate still has to go through my system - just like you still have to make good posts
seriously, you show up here sight unseen and your very first posts are to take up weird stances on other people’s comments? the fuck
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cool, time for this account to disappear too
Relax, I’m probably worried just as much about climate change and waste of resources as you are, if not more. My take was an ironic take.
We laugh that we can avoid screaming and continue to fight, in whatever small ways we can.
I heard openai execs are so scared of how powerful the next model will be that they’re literally shitting themselves every day thinking about it. they don’t even clean it up anymore, the openai office is one of the worst smelling places on earth
dude. the AGI will simply vanish the evidence wherever they’re standing
for every one of me that shit my pants the AGI is simulating ten million of me that didn’t, so on average i’m doing pretty ok
Better than that, AGI will figure out a way to exponentially increase the value of their soiled pants. Blows your fucking mind.
JK Rowling intensifies
That or the twitter office after the sink was let in
Many people are saying that it acquired a bit of a musk.
It is a bring your own tp with you company now
Remember when wizards magicking away their shits was the stupidest thing to come out of Rowling’s mouth? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
(Seriously, I was not prepared for Rowling’s TERFward Turn)
Ugh, right there with you. :(
The release of this next model comes at a crucial time for OpenAI, which just closed a historic $6.6 billion funding round that requires the company to restructure itself as a for-profit entity. The company is also experiencing significant staff turnover: CTO Mira Murati just announced her departure along with Bob McGrew, the company’s chief research officer, and Barret Zoph, VP of post training.
All the problems with “AI” are suddenly solved now that Altman needs to justify his funding. I’m sure senior executives are jumping ship right on the cusp of their great triumph, because they want to spend more time with their families.
really stretching the meaning of the word release past breaking if it’s only going to be available to companies friendly with OpenAI
Orion has been teased by an OpenAI executive as potentially up to 100 times more powerful than GPT-4; it’s separate from the o1 reasoning model OpenAI released in September. The company’s goal is to combine its LLMs over time to create an even more capable model that could eventually be called artificial general intelligence, or AGI.
so I’m calling it now, this absolute horseshit’s only purpose is desperate critihype. as with previous rounds of this exact same thing, it’ll only exist to give AI influencers a way to feel superior in conversation and grift more research funds. oh of course Strawberry fucks up that prompt but look, my advance access to Orion does so well I’m sure you’ll agree with me it’s AGI! no you can’t prompt it yourself or know how many times I ran the prompt why would I let you do that
That timing lines up with a cryptic post on X by OpenAI Altman, in which he said he was “excited for the winter constellations to rise soon.” If you ask ChatGPT o1-preview what Altman’s post is hiding, it will tell you that he’s hinting at the word Orion, which is the winter constellation that’s most visible in the night sky from November to February (but it also hallucinates that you can rearrange the letters to spell “ORION”).
there’s something incredibly embarrassing about the fact that Sammy announced the name like a lazy ARG based on a GPT response, which GPT proceeded to absolutely fuck up when asked about. a lot like Strawberry really — there’s so much Binance energy in naming the new version of your product after the stupid shit the last version fucked up, especially if the new version doesn’t fix the problem
teased by an OpenAI executive as potentially up to 100 times more powerful
“potentially up to 100 times” is such a peculiar phrasing too… could just as well say “potentially up to one billion trillion times!”
I’d love to get an interview with saltman and ask him to explain how they measure “power” of those things. What’s the methodology? Do you have charts? Or does it just somehow consume 100x more power as in watts.
You forgot the best part, the screenshot of the person asking ChatGPT’s “thinking” model what Altman was hiding:
Thought for 95 seconds … Rearranging the letters in “they are so great” can form the word ORION.
AI is a complete joke, and I have no idea how anyone can think otherwise.
I’m already sick and tired of the “hallucinate” euphemism.
It isn’t a cute widdle hallucination, It’s the damn product being wrong. Dangerously, stupidly, obviously wrong.
In a world that hadn’t already gone well to shit, this would be considered an unacceptable error and a demonstration that the product isn’t ready.
Now I suddenly find myself living in this accelerated idiocracy where wall street has forced us - as a fucking society - to live with a Ready, Fire, Aim mentality in business, especially tech.
I think it’s weird that “hallucination” would be considered a cute euphemism. Would you trust something that’s perpetually tripping balls and confidently announcing whatever comes to them in a dream? To me that sounds worse than merely being wrong.
I think the problem is that it portrays them as weird exceptions, possibly even echoes from some kind of ghost in the machine. Instead of being a statistical inevitability when you’re asking for the next predicted token instead of meaningfully examining a model of reality.
“Hallucination” applies only to the times when the output is obviously bad, and hides the fact that it’s doing exactly the same thing when it incidentally produces a true statement.
I get the gist, but also it’s kinda hard to come up with a better alternative. A simple “being wrong” doesn’t exactly communicate it either. I don’t think “hallucination” is a perfect word for the phenomenon of “a statistically probable sequence of language tokens forming a factually incorrect claim” by any means, but in terms of the available options I find it pretty good.
I don’t think the issue here is the word, it’s just that a lot of people think the machines are smart when they’re not. Not anthropomorphizing the machines is a battle that was lost no later than the time computer data representation devices were named “memory”, so I don’t think that’s really the issue here either.
As a side note, I’ve seen cases of people (admittedly, mostly critics of AI in the first place) call anything produced by an LLM a hallucination regardless of truthfulness.
Reminds me of A Scanner Darkly a bit, yeah I would not trust someone like that
[ChatGPT interrupts a Scrabble game, spills the tiles onto the table, and rearranges THEY ARE SO GREAT into TOO MANY SECRETS]
Orion is coming?
Quick, get him a towel!
So how many ChatGPT 4s have they precariously stacked up on top of each other this time?
According to the totally unintentional and legit executive leak, they stacked 100 them!
HOW MANY HAVE WE GOT
Err 4 I suppose 🤷
16 times the detail
