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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th October 2026English
10·1 day agoFirst up: thanks for your hard work here in the sneer mines during these ridiculous times!
I saw this being ignored on HN and I thought that you might appreciate it:
Navier-Stokes Lost in Translation – Why Lean Verification of AI Autoformalisation Does not Guarantee Correct Natural Language Proofs
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.08144
The authors point out that automatic translation of natural language mathematics into Lean is very hard, actually. They also highlight some examples of such translation errors in the Navier-Stokes “paper” published by OpenAI. They tread lightly and don’t take a position on the correctness of the proof, but they do bring a large stack of receipts.
I also thought the reference to the Solvability Complexity Index (which is new to me) was interesting, and there’s an appendix with an explainer on how the SCI hierarchy is constructed. According to this scheme, autoformalisation of natural language proofs is strictly harder than the Halting Problem.
I haven’t had a chance to check on the bona fides of the authors.
This is all beyond my level, but I’d love to see what our local experts think of it in light of the recent gish galop.
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TechTakes@awful.systems•‘Some bad things’ may happen to you, but that’s a sacrifice Sam Altman is willing to makeEnglish
5·1 day agoThat 2015 quote was a real stinger. Literally the future-tense version of “we destroyed the world but think of all the shareholder value we created along the way!”
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th October 2026English
8·1 day agoKnowledge workers of the world, unite; you have nothing to lose but your teeth.
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th October 2026English
7·1 day agoMost of rationalism seems to be “Making up a guy and getting mad at him” doesn’t it?
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
8·6 days agogood lord, the egos on all of them
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
11·7 days ago“consort” and “compassion” are doing some serious lifting there
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
14·7 days agoHelp, i invented roku’s basilisk and now my remote control doesn’t work
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Someone ‘Torturing’ LLMs in a Robot Prison Has Triggered the Dumbest Debate in AI YetEnglish
9·7 days agoThey love matrix algebra like Hitler loved dogs.
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots | TechCrunchEnglish
5·7 days agoReddit does not appear to value the goose
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
1·8 days agodeleted by creator
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
3·9 days agoIt’s been widely suspected that any of the “frontier” labs declaring a slowdown or cessation of training would be a herald of collapse. It will give them more survival time at the expense of terminally falling behind the competition. Very much an eating the seed corn sort of thing.
Edit: I could be wishcasting, though.
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
8·10 days agoThe nap I had afterwards was a bliss like escaping the fucking samsara.
I felt this in my soul
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 4th October 2026English
8·10 days agoit’s_happening.gif
OpenAI halts frontier-model training amid string of agent misalignment incidents
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 27th September 2026English
6·12 days agoIt’s Dork Kremlinology
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 27th September 2026English
8·14 days agojonny is always a good read!
Edit: good lord it keeps getting better #
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Nate Graham doubles down on sloppificationEnglish
10·14 days agoI mean, if I wanted to be childish I’d say that Nate’s ok chasing all the users off because he’s used to playing with himself.
It’s obvious, by comparison, that the OP was being perfectly reasonable.
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TechTakes@awful.systems•Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 27th September 2026English
2·15 days agoIs this a play to get openai out of its obligations to microsoft?
Just a smol oopsie doodle




Stuff like this highlights that the "info"dump was an act of contempt toward professional mathematics. If OAI actually gave a damn about people, they could have coordinated with actual researchers in the relevant fields to clean up the documents while putting a human face on them. Put everything behind NDAs, fund some grants and fellowships, and if it leaks? So what, it would have been actual good press and built hype. Plus, it would have weeded out the the obvious garbage and they’d have brought a lot of young researchers inside the tent.
But nooooooo, they chose violence, because they are assholes. They’ll never forgive the academics for doing the work and actually being good at math and physics.
I know I’m preaching to the choir, but damn I’m stirred up.