I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?
Thunderbird is fine.
Maybe I have too much grey in my beard - I don’t care how modern it looks.
Nah it has nothing to do with your beard colour.
I like it a lot and I’m almost as old or as young as Thunderbird is.
Thunderbird all the way 🙌
I have used Thunderbird for years. HOWEVER:
- I don’t know why Thunderbird can’t get a reliable, functional search ability. It’s such garbage. I constantly have to delete my entire search index and start from scratch, it is immensely frustrating.
- The problems connecting to gmail are also so frustrating. Yes, they are Google’s fault but if you make an e-mail client you maybe need to add a workaround for the world’s most popular e-mail provider. It’s totally fixable because you can apply those fixes manually.
I don’t know why Thunderbird can’t get a reliable, functional search ability. It’s such garbage. I constantly have to delete my entire search index and start from scratch, it is immensely frustrating.
Maybe see if Betterbird’s search works better for you
Wow very interesting thank you! I like that it can be run side-by-side from the same profile to test it out. If search was fixed I would have never migrated so much of my e-mail to gmail.
Are you taking about the semi recent rewrite or the old discontinued version?
All versions over the past decade including the latest one
Thunderbird. Idk what you mean by old fashioned. It works fine, and you can style it with gtk themes.
On Android I use K-9 Mail, which looks modern to me.
I mean everyone has their preferences, but personally I don’t use email clients because I want to look at something pretty—I use them to read my emails. Thunderbird mostly matching my gtk theme is more than enough for me.
I don’t know if you were aware of this but K-9 Mail has joined up with the thunderbird developers and will at some point transition to thunderbird for mobile devices
Why is Thunderbird old? It recently had a major redo and was rebranded with the supernova branding. Try the flatpak version.
Thunderbird. It’s great
I am not sure how to make it look shitty like Gmail, maybe you could theme it to wast a ton of space.
Seriously, do you want a useful email client or not?
I use Thunderbird and I don’t think it looks old, specially after recent updates. You can also change the colors which is pretty cool.
Thunderbird for desktop computer, K-9 mail for mobile phone.
Did you know K-9 mail is soon to be thunderbird mobile
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Sort of. They are going to keep maintaining K-9 mail with the current branding but there will also be a version of K-9 that is called is called Thunderbird for Android that will be themed like Thunderbird desktop.
Thunderbird. Hate the redesign. If it ain’t broke dont fix it.
K9 for phone
I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active
I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active
Me too. I mean if I got an email with someone’s public key attached I’d send an encrypted reply. One day the person you’re emailing will eventually do the same lol. (I mean I do get people sending me encrypted emails sometimes, but most of the time it’s “wtf is this .asc file you’ve attached to this email”)
Thunderbird + K9 Mail are my way to go, too.
Though I mostly do like the redesign, since it fixes some long standing issues with Thunderbird (e.g. not being able to select a multi line message view (“cards view”), instead of the traditional table view.) The search bar being always on top annoys me each time I open it, so I understand a more long time Thunderbird user might have more nitpicks. Almost all of the changes can be reverted through settings, which I find awesome.
The refactor fixed a ton of issues
Thunderbird, much like Firefox, is the best because it’s the least bad.
mutt, because it looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Of the 20th century.
Web browser and Proton mail app on my phone.
Web browser
Despite all the other answers, I suspect Web Browser is the most popular. As web apps for email got better, development of desktop clients stalled.
Fast search through a lot mail takes some considerable resources to build, store and search an index, and web-based systems do that really well.
I’ve used about all of them over the years: Pine, Mutt, Thunderbird, Evolution, K-Mail and some others.
I eventually threw in the towel and use web UIs now. Fast, available everywhere and good keyboard support, especially when paired with a browser extension like Vimium.
Web UIs rarely support everything one needs; usually they support their own system and maybe a little bit of bonus.
Outlook web for hosted Exchange won’t even do multiple mailboxes in a unified Inbox, even on the same account!
Right. I’m glad there are options. Despite their flaws, web UIs for email are massively popular.
Using Evolution for nearly a decade now.
Cannot say anything about using it with a Yubikey.
Concerning Evolution: It never let me down, always worked and is comparatively lightweight.
Thunderbird was quite slow/heavy/memory hungry many years back. KMail ate my emails, failed at integration of GMail accounts etc etc etc. In the past I also liked Sylpheed, but AFAIK it doesn’t have any OAUTH support etc. by now.
When nothing big changes, I guess only Thunderbird and Evolution are good investments, because they seem to be the only clients which are stable now and have enough users/active developers to not disappear randomly.
Thunderbird on desktop, although I don’t love it.
FairEmail on Android.
FairEmail is fucking awesome. If it were a sentient being or object, I’d pound it so hard. With consent, of course. Does everything I want and then some: fast, strips everything down to text, lets me appear to send from any address on my domains, blocks trackers, is constantly (almost literally) updated and improved, custom notification handling per folder, custom colors for messages/folders…
I’d pay for it again to get a desktop version, no hesitation about it. TB is /fine/ but… that one meme with the guy looking back at the other girl
Just installed it and woof, this is very good looking. I was waiting for K9 mail to get a few more updates before making it my daily driver, but this works really well already.
Also love an app with an FAQ that actually answers questions I’m thinking lol
Thank you for mentioning FairEmail, and thank you @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world, for elaborating on what makes it great.
Thanks to your recommendations I installed it last night and paid the $6 one-time license fee to unlock the advanced features. Being able to set custom notification sounds per sender is a feature I’ve been wanting on my phone for years. I finally have it now and it’s already changing my life for the better.
^__^ yay! I’m glad to hear it. I’ve been using it for… 4 years, I believe, and it’s just been fantastic for me, so I like to spread the word whenever it comes up.
Mutt.
