• hakase@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    I was getting my flu vaccine the other day and the nurse asked me why I checked “I don’t know” in response to the question “Is the patient sick?”

    She seemed genuinely annoyed when I told her that the only two truthful answers to “Are you sick?” are “Yes” and “I don’t know”.

    If the question had asked “Is the patient showing any symptoms of illness?” it would have been a different story, but I answered the question as asked.

    • cass1312 (she/her)@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      1 month ago

      I’ve had some of my family get annoyed at me for a similar thing lol. If someone asks me if I’d do something in a hypothetical scenario, I basically always answer with “probably” or “probably not”. I just feel like no matter how certain I feel I would do something in some given situation that I’ve never experienced, I can’t know 100% unless it were to actually happen, so answering as if I’m sure would be incorrect of me.

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      i went in for a surgery a couple of years ago. receptionist asks if I’ve had covid. i say i don’t know. receptionist looks at me like im trying to be funny. i specify that i haven’t had symptomatic covid. receptionist asks me again if I’ve had covid. my partner tells me to stop being difficult. receptionist rolls their eyes. as far as i was aware you can have covid without symptoms, so i really think answering ‘no’ is dangerously arrogant. or at least foolishly naive.

    • DanVctr@sh.itjust.works
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      30 days ago

      Why? Sure we have a difficult time being social sometimes, but it’d argue it gives you a superpower in reasoning/being in touch with yourself.

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          29 days ago

          I would be down for either or both. I just want to be someone else in a different world. I don’t really like how my life has turned out at all and I don’t think its going to get better.

          I feel a pretty awful sense of emptiness and alienation these days. Pretty intense suicidality. Especially recently due to some friend circle implosion. Where by any normal person’s evaluation of the situation, I am the bad guy. But its due to autistic burnout and autistic limerence coinciding at the same time. Also through drunken negligence and a poor ability to read my own emotions, due to Alexithymia. All joining forces to make me step on social taboo rakes and make a huge portion of my friends dislike me significantly.

          I have a therapist as a result of the crisis and its not really helping very much. Shes a pretty nice therapist though.

  • Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    30 days ago

    The “people tell me I’m X” type questions on shit like this always annoy me because like, what exactly are you trying to gauge with this question? Are you trying to determine what I’m like, or are you trying to determine what other people’s perception of me is? The way it’s worded would denote the latter but I’m not sure that’s in actuality what they’re going for. In any case, I don’t typically have people regularly telling me “you’re so [personality trait]” so most of the time if I answer honestly then the answer will usually be “completely disagree” but then that probably skews the test towards an inaccurate result if what they’re really trying to determine is “are you [personality trait]?”

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      30 days ago

      They’re trying to figure out how you compare to other people. It’s terribly worded, but it’s something people who don’t take things literally would get. It’s also really weird because other mental health evaluations tend not to use that sort of potentially confusing language.

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        30 days ago

        They should get some autists to write alternative versions of the questions.

        V1 rewrite: “You often notice or have been told that you take things too literally.”

        Nah, still too vague. How literal is too literal?

        V2: “You often notice or have been told that you take things more literally than what was probably intended.”

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      30 days ago

      Also, people don’t have conversations where they wheel around to the autistic person and say "you’re way too literal.

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      29 days ago

      Well yeah they’re trying to see if other people see those traits in you because self perception is biased. I think the question is quite literal, either people tell you you take things too literally or they don’t. I think that’s the joke?

  • hayvan@piefed.world
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    1 month ago

    Autism tests are useless because I can already see which are the autistic answers and can manipulate the results either way.

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    30 days ago

    Some people think autism means taking everything literally but that’s actually kleptomania

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    30 days ago

    Recently I had a therapist ask if I experience cognitive distortions, but in a way where a literal interpretation would be asking if I hallucinate. I’m not autistic and I knew what she meant, but I did feel the need to be clear in my answer

  • Rei@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 month ago

    The most “fun” ones are the control questions askinging you exactly the opposite of something you’ve been already asked.

    Except inversion also reverses subtext so your honest answer has to be different than just the opposite of the previous answer you have. But if the two answers are not a perfect mirror, you might trigger too many control questions and not get diagnosed. What should you do? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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    30 days ago

    People don’t tell you that. It would be rude. It would probably be someone else on the spectrum tactlessly telling you, if anyone. However, self-realization that you took many comments literally and embarassed yourself or screwed something up is why you tick that box “yes”.

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      This is always what makes me a little unsure of if I have autism. Cause I have very little trouble understanding a person’s feeling from their facial expression. Admittedly I am self-diagnosed, but I also know it’s a spectrum so there’s gotta be a few outliers who don’t struggle with this, right?

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        Honestly, I think neurotypicals put too much emphasis on facial expression. I can read facial expressions fine most of the time, yeah, but rarely does someone accurately read my facial expression.

        People either assume I’m upset (because I’m not actively attempting to emote, such as when I’m thinking about something), or assume I’m happy (because I’m masking - in which case I may look happy, but that doesn’t mean I feel happy.)

        Considering that “resting bitch face” has become a known cultural phenomenon, I’m tempted to argue that neurotypicals have as much trouble reading faces as they claim we do. The difference is, if they’re wrong they either don’t recognize it, or double-down because obvs you’re lying for some reason. (You’re autistic after all, they clearly know how you’re feeling better than you do. /s)

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          Ha yeah I got that resting bitch face too. When I’m feeling just fine I look like someone just kicked my shin with dogpoop-smeared boots. Agree we put way too much emphasis on facial expressions.

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      30 days ago

      As opposed to the cptsd answer: “what did I do to cause you to show me a bunch of pictures of people who are mad at me”

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    1 month ago

    All online tests are basically

    Test: from 1 to 5, how much X do you feel?

    You: 4/5

    Test results: You are 75% X

    You: so true

    You can always tell immediately which question confirms your preconceptions, so you can never answer genuinely. It’s all confirmation bias.

    This is all amplified by the fact that if you are taking the test, you already think that you are the thing in the test (in this case, autistic).

    P.S. this includes mbti tests. Don’t let their sciency looks deceive you. It’s all confirmation bias, all fake.

  • gandalf_die_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    oh btw, i was reading some legal texts yesterday (as a hobby) and it’s surprisingly easy to read for me. yes, it’s all convoluted language; but at least it’s precise and clear. no swampy vague language.

    so it’s actually easier to digest than many small-talk conversations that i’ve had.

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      In which country do you find clear and defined legal texts? I was inder the impression such texts were kept intentionally vague so the executioner can sway either way, deoending where the money sits. (Especially laws, but I realize law texts are just a small subset of legal texts)

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        You’re thinking consumer sales contracts by scummy companies. There’s plenty of very precise legal texts available. Business to business contracts where both sizes have good lawyers, for example

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        what you said is basically true in the US; but in german-speaking areas, legal texts are perfect for people with autism. just clear, defined terms; meaningful sentence structure; getting to the point. no ambiguity, no vagueness, no bullshit (mostly).

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    1 month ago

    That’s why assessment is done by professionals who can interpret your answers, not online quizzes

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    Am I autistic? Regardless of how literally you feel you take statements, I still want to know whether people complain to you about you being “too literal” because I want to know if it is affecting your interpersonal relationships. If I wanted to know whether you feel you take things literally, I would add that as a separate question? Please don’t project subtext on this, I actually want to know the answer to the actual question I’m actually asking you?

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      But that doesn’t tell you anything about the test-taker, it only tells you about their social environment.

      If they’re autistic and hang out with other neurodivergents then nobody is going to tell them they’re too literal, they might even tell them they aren’t literal enough.

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        I’m pretty sure this is how so many members of my family have made it to adulthood without getting diagnosed earlier (I mean, aside from diagnosis becoming more common/accepted these days.)

        Like, you mean to tell me there are siblings who don’t send each other pictures of interesting road signs they come across? Pfft, what a weird family that must be. Next you’ll be telling me that most families don’t ask each other impromptu trivia questions about obscure topics that they happen to share interests in.

        This is our normal. Always has been. It’s the rest of the world that’s weird.

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    “too literal” is inherently subjective. Too literal to whom? What if my friends group is also neurodivergent as fuck, does this invalidate me then because it’s the new neurotypical?

    I conclude that we need tests for what’s usually thought off as “normies”. If they know about their rhetorical precision deficits surely they can get therapy to solve that issue and integrate better into society.

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      I’ve been told many times I’m too literal. They are wrong, I am appropriately literal. However, it is something people tell me.